Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of largest shipyards in history

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of shipbuilders and shipyards. Clear consensus to redirect. In addition, the suggestion that List of shipbuilders and shipyards be turned into a table, live-sortable by various columns, seems like a good idea. Please continue to discuss a possible table conversion on the list's talk page. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:37, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

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Citing WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE and WP:OR, this is a broad, noninclusive, shoddily-detailed, poorly-cited, low-quality article. I previously [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_largest_shipyards_in_history&oldid=841158538 proposed the article for deletion], which the page creator [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_largest_shipyards_in_history&direction=next&oldid=841158538 abruptly reverted]- I subsequently showed good faith by not pressing the issue further, with the caveat that the page would be enhanced. Unfortunately, this has only been complied with by a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_largest_shipyards_in_history&diff=841237455&oldid=841226537 grain of salt's extent]. This list has been around for eleven months, without any effort improve- nor clarification for its purpose- displayed. Therefore, I'm now nominating this list for deletion. DARTHBOTTO talkcont 17:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. DARTHBOTTO talkcont 17:51, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. DARTHBOTTO talkcont 17:51, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

  • Redirect – To List of shipbuilders and shipyards. They are already covered there which seems to be a well referenced and maintained list. ShoesssS Talk 18:06, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Redirect: I agree with {{u|Shoessss}}. = paul2520 (talk) 20:53, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Nominator's comment: Per the above recommendations, I am content with seeing this redirected to List of shipbuilders and shipyards. This list on its own is just wasted, extraneous bandwidth. DARTHBOTTO talkcont 21:29, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep, AFD is WP:NOTCLEANUP. Additionally, the list of shipyards list is overly long.--Prisencolin (talk) 20:02, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
  • :Comment – So in other words, you want keep a “List" for a "List" that has a “List”…To what purpose may I ask when a “Redirect” solves the problems? Again, just asking….may have missed something here. ShoesssS Talk 21:45, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

::I'm not proposing cleanup. Yes, it's not a well-constructed article, but the issue is the substance, which just isn't there... DARTHBOTTO talkcont 22:13, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

:::The issue of substance is also what add is for, since this article is a stub and needs to be expanded. Wikipedia:Deletion to Quality Award anyone?--Prisencolin (talk) 16:46, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

  • Redirect -- There is no clear criterion for what is (and is not) included. The target List of shipbuilders and shipyards would be better being converted to a table in which dates of operation could be added, along with data on the number of shops built. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:36, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.