Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of loanwords in Azerbaijani language

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Unreferenced, original research per WP:NOR. Gurt Posh (talk) 15:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

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• It's only OR if it can't be referenced, not just because it isn't at present. The standard is verifiable, not verified. Are you claiming that the status of these words as loanwords is incorrect or cannot be cited to a reliable source? Another question is whether this list topic is appropriate for Wikipedia. Do we maintain lists of words in other languages? Based on :Category:Lists_of_loanwords it looks like we do, but I don't know what the consensus is on whether all such potential lists are valid topics. postdlf (talk) 16:01, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

::I can find no sources online for any of the claims made, WP:Reliable or otherwise, and tags for references were removed without explanation by the article's creator. The sole reference added was an external link to About.com about the meaning of various Hebrew names, none of which are mentioned in the article. Theories about loanwords are an enjoyable speculative hobby: theories abound on the origins of Basque, for example, with many attempts to show cognates and loanwords from various languages, none of which have passed peer-reviewed scrutiny. So the enjoyable speculative hobby, once plopped unreferenced onto Wikipedia, becomes just more Wikipedia:Randy in Boise. I'm not an expert in the Azerbaijani language, so maybe I should have added an expert tag before taking it to AFD. If the consensus here is that I should do that, then I will. Gurt Posh (talk) 16:22, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Delete – all of it (except for çaqqal "jackal" and perhaps tilif) is made-up and incorrect information; the other similarities are just coincidences.  --Lambiam 20:29, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

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• Delete. It's important that each entry is well referenced. The explanations are not convincing.  Nipsonanomhmata  ^(Talk) 01:02, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

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:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:26, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

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• Delete - Wikipedia is not the Oxford Dictionary of the Azerbaijani language. This is an original essay of somewhat dubious validity with an almost random feel both with respect to material included and the language being covered. Why not List of Georgian words with exactly four syllables? Carrite (talk) 03:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
• Delete. This article is almost completely unsourced. I am not going to just take somebody's word for it that the Azerbaijani word for "sheep" was taken from a Hebrew word meaning "nation" or "people". --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:36, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
• Delete this and any other article like it. WP:Wikipedia is not a dictionary. A dictionary is a list of words giving the meaning and derivation of each. No word is more "notable" than any other word, Wikipedia-wise. If we have lists of words then we should have complete lists of every word in every language. On the other hand articles about languages are fine, with a few words mentioned as examples. Steve Dufour (talk) 12:58, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
• Delete - The sole reference describes the etymology of jackal and does nothing to verify the article's content. I think that WP:GNG may also be relevant, seeing as this has hardly received any coverage by reliable sources. Interchangable (talk) 19:48, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
• Delete - not because list articles cannot be meaningful/useful, but in this form has too many secondary problems and should be in a sandbox somewhere. Compare List of loan words in Indonesian with this. (1) The Indonesian article has a proper lede, (2) the Indonesian article has a decent source, (3) the Indonesian article clicks through to id.wiki wheras the Azerbaijani one has also been deleted from Azerbaijani wiki (I checked). In ictu oculi (talk) 01:57, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

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