Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of most viewed Vevo videos

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Wikipedia is not a directory - VEVO views can be faked or botted, therefore the notability of this list is non-existent. No independent sources. The Banner talk 22:52, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

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• Comment – What makes this different from something like List of most viewed YouTube videos, which has [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_most_watched_YouTube_videos survived at AFD in the past]? Legit question - my stance is neutral for now. Sergecross73 msg me 13:53, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

::Perhaps the existence of independent coverage? Also, while YouTube has its faults, faking views is much more difficult to accomplish.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

:::Are automated views more prevalent for Vevo? There's also plenty of third party sources dedicated to the subject in the article. Sources like [http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6737360/taylor-swift-blank-space-vevo-record-most-views Bllboard], one of the most mainstream third party sources in existence for music. Sergecross73 msg me 01:44, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTLINKFARM - trivial list. All references don't actually contain information regarding number of views, they just direct to the Vevo video. Ajf773 (talk) 04:03, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

:*{{u|Ajf773}} - How thoroughly did you review things here? My post directly above literally debunks your second sentence - there's a Billboard article dedicated entirely around how many Vevo views a Taylor Swift video got. There's other ones in there too. Sergecross73 msg me 13:51, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

• Keep – per the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_most_watched_YouTube_videos AFD consensus about the Youtube list of the exact same sort of thing] and the fact that there are third party sources like Billboard that [http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6737360/taylor-swift-blank-space-vevo-record-most-views dedicate entire articles] to this sort of thing. Sergecross73 msg me 13:53, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
• A single AfD 4 years ago says nothing about the present opinions. And that Billboard article is based on info supplied by VEVO, not backed up by independent sources. The Banner talk 08:54, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
• There are articles outside of Billboard that discuss the most viewed VEVO videos such as [http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/27/9621206/adele-hello-video-record-taylor-swift-vevo The Verge], [http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/miley-cyrus-katy-perry-and-robin-thicke-the-top-10-videos-on-vevo-this-week-8814517.html The Independent], and [http://www.etonline.com/news/174738_adele_smashes_taylor_swift_bad_blood_video_views_record/ Entertainment Tonight]. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 16:53, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
• What? Billboard is the third party source in this instance. Why the hell would we need 2 degrees of 3rd party reporting here? We don't require third parties to get their info from another third party. Sergecross73 msg me 18:48, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
• Keep – There are reliable sources in this article that discuss the most viewed videos of VEVO. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 01:11, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
• Delete – link farm / largely self-cited / pop culture trivia / subject to change. If I would have caught the YouTube discussion I might have voted delete there as well. Better late than never. : -) . K.e.coffman (talk) 07:04, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
• Keep – The topic is notable and has been discussed repeatedly throughout the years by a variety of independant sources, including (but not limited to) [http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7616797/justin-bieber-sorry-vevo-most-watched-2016] [http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2016/12/08/justin-biebers-sorry-is-the-most-watched-music-video-on-vevo-of-2016/#48e3dae273ee] [http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6804101/vevo-10-most-watched-videos-2015] [http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2015/12/10/these-are-vevos-10-most-watched-videos-of-2015/#1667f1b03ab7] [http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6737360/taylor-swift-blank-space-vevo-record-most-views] [http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6590902/katy-perry-dark-horse-1-billion-vevo-views] [http://www.tubefilter.com/2014/02/24/justin-beiber-baby-vevo-billion/] [http://www.popdust.com/justin-biebers-baby-becomes-most-watched-vevo-video-of-all-timeone-bil-1889837122.html] [http://www.horusmusic.global/10-viewed-videos-vevo/] [http://kworb.net/youtube/topvideos.html] [http://www.watchmojo.com/video/id/14834/] [http://www.justinbieberzone.com/2014/11/justin-bieber-tops-vevos-100-most-viewed-music-videos-of-all-time/] [https://twitter.com/MyTop100Videos/status/656522799679410176] [https://twitter.com/923amp/status/739130753489899521] [https://twitter.com/RCARecords/status/743127472397537281] [https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/786301740907978752] [https://twitter.com/Dikrauhl/status/786161529876013056]. A simple [https://www.google.com/#q=most+viewed+vevo+videos&tbm=vid Google search] of the ‘most viewed vevo videos’ will display dozens of video results that discuss the topic in detail. It has attracted significant attention and includes reliable sources so it should not be deleted. 174.116.68.79 (talk) 05:01, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

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