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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs featured on South Park

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 01:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

=[[List of songs featured on South Park]]=

:{{la|List of songs featured on South Park}} – (View AfD)(View log)

For the same reasons given in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs featured in Vanilla Sky. The essay WP:FAN is relevant here. Included:

--Bulldog123 07:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

:*The songs written specifically for the show may certainly be necessary for a critical understanding of the show, but the fact that a character hums a few notes of a song or sings a couple of lyrics isn't. Otto4711 22:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Remove all songs that were not written specifically for the TV show and Keep, otherwise Merge to South Park. --Charlene 18:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete just because we like South Park and The Simpsons and don't like other shows is no reason to keep these sorts of lists, would we even consider keeping List of songs featured on 60 Minutes? c'mon. Carlossuarez46 23:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep I do not see any reason why keeping it is a problem, and yes, the sorttable tables in the Simpsons is a great idea, and yes in my opinion, encyclopedic. Put it simply; people will look up to it and will know that The Simpsons and South Park has gone to this far for many years and has featured many famous hit songs. However, there should be a rule that only original song tracks that are really featured in the Simpsons/South Park can be added; and not just adding part of a song that lyric's are being sung by a character. As a knowledgable music buff myself, I see alot of Simpsons songs being added that are actually just "referenced" and not the original song's track being "featured".

Someformofhuman 02:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep or merge to South Park. “The Simpsons” and “South Park” are extremely significant and unquestionable notable subjects. Unlike “Vanilla Sky” they represent critical commentary (on current society). The songs are not incidental, or padding, but are a significant component of the commentary, and often significant commentary themselves. The amount of material on the subjects is so large that it needs to be divided and organized, and this is just the function of List of songs in South Park and List of songs featured in The Simpsons. Both subjects are currently not well written, being excessively orientated to a fan perspective, and not enough to the perspective of serious scholarship. A reorientation is desirable, as is a better application of Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction), and deletions of attempts to organize the material are counterproductive. --SmokeyJoe 04:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete; then add links to Chef Aid: The South Park Album and South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut#Soundtrack from South Park. We don't need a list of songs other than those on the albums; instead expand or add to the section on music in South Park, or create a separate article dealing with Music in South Park. Bjelleklang - talk Bug Me 15:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete song pages that describe songs played in the show. Songs created for the show should be kept where notable enough to warrant their own article, or merge all songs created for show into one article if individual articles cannot be used. A show should only have an article on songs played in the show if the show is known for its outside music sources, and reliable sources would be needed for this example. --WillMak050389 03:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
  • What you say is sensible, and perhaps I was tending a bit leniently eventualist above. Not even South Park links to this list! However, but I don’t think delete is preferable to a merge to South Park. The list contains sourced material that can be improved, to prose, if a listing of all songs used is thought to be not appropriate. --SmokeyJoe 04:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes, if the outside music used in the show has important and can be sourced, it should be used in the South Park article, and if enough information can be gathered, into a separate article. Any original music should be merged into a "List of songs from South Park" or similar, and if notable enough, separate songs or groups of songs (such as soundtracks) should have their own article. I hope that clears up what I was thinking/trying to say. --WillMak050389 05:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete There really isn't any assertation of notability. It boils down to Wikipedia is not a collection of information. Relevant notable releases, such as the soundtrack, can and are covered. Keegantalk 05:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - there is a difference between trivia and an encyclopedia; this is trivia. If there is anything salvagable it should certainly be merged into the main article. --Storm Rider (talk) 05:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.