Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loofball

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non-notable sport, maybe too soon, maybe it'll never be notable but there is virtually no meaningful in depth coverage. PRAXIDICAE🌈 12:27, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports and Nigeria. Shellwood (talk) 12:46, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Evidences suggest the sport is relatively young but significantly popular in Nigeria as it is already accepted and taught in schools across some parts of the country.--Joesmithroots (talk) 15:04, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete. It appears in Vanguard, which is a national newspaper in Nigeria, however that's the only mention I can find in a reliable source. Chagropango (talk) 15:47, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
• keep. Hi Chagropango please check additional sources in the reference section. Thank you! Joesmithroots (talk) 16:07, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

:Thank you for your review! From my findings, however, the sport has been steadily gaining momentum in Nigeria since its inception and is cherished in many parts of the country. Joesmithroots (talk) 07:44, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

::Okay, the main source in question here is a feature on Loofball on Nigerian Television Authority. As for the other sources they don't appear to meet notability guidelines. I don't know if these two mentions are enough to establish notability, but the coverage on NTA appears to be in depth and reliable. Chagropango (talk) 06:46, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

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• Keep. Fairly notable but the article is well-written and factual. Udoxfarm (talk) 19:45, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
• Delete: lacks any significant coverage in reliable sources. ––User:FormalDude talk 09:54, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
• :Hi FormalDude, Based on the explanation by Wikipedia, significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. The topic in question was covered in depth by a national newspaper and national television, which I think forms a basis for significant coverage. Anyway, thank you for your review! Joesmithroots (talk) 14:41, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
• ::Which source would that be? PRAXIDICAE🌈 14:49, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
• :::Sources no. 3 and 4 i.e. Vanguard Newspaper and Nigerian Television Authority Joesmithroots (talk) 15:04, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
• ::::Neither of which, as has been repeatedly pointed out to you is independent, in depth coverage. PRAXIDICAE🌈 15:07, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
• :::::"repeatedly"? I don't see such a thing, @Praxidicae. I think you might be getting a little WP:BITEy. casualdejekyll 20:21, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
• ::::::Take a look at previous discussions with the user, then. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:22, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

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• Weak keep or Draftify It may not have extensive reliable coverage, but it has some. There is also an official website for the sport trying to promote it and many mentions in non-reliable sources. I'd be willing to let it go, sport seems popular enough, maybe too soon. For all the poor quality articles from the African continent we see at AfD, this one isn't fake or trying to sell us something. I'd be ok if draftify it, it really only needs one more reliable source to get a "pass". Oaktree b (talk) 14:38, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
• :Their official site isn't even close to qualifying it for an article. The fact that it exists is also irrelevant, I would oppose any draftification unless someone can identify actual in depth coverage that establishes a modicum of notability (in which case, draftify is still moot because if it were notable, the article would exist.) PRAXIDICAE🌈 14:49, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

: Or a redirect to "sport in Nigeria", could be an interesting subsection there also. Oaktree b (talk) 14:44, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

::Hi please check the revised article for additional source (no. 6) and changes. Joesmithroots (talk) 14:22, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

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• Ah! A controversial AFD. Time to bring out my old friend a source assessment table.

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{{ source assess

| source = Loofball Official Site

| ind = n

| ind_just = Owned by Loofball company

| rel = ?

| rel_just =

| sig = y

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{{ source assess

| source = Topend Sports

| ind = ?

| ind_just =

| rel = n

| rel_just = Appears to be user generated content.

| sig = y

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{{ source assess

| source = Vanguard

| ind = -

| ind_just = Consists partially of interview with creator of Loofball

| rel = y

| rel_just = Vanguard is assumed to be a real newspaper

| sig = n

| sig_just = Appears to only briefly touch on Loofball - is mostly about efforts to promote sporting in education

}}

{{ source assess

| source = NTA

| ind = y

| ind_just =

| rel = y

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| sig = y

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{{ source assess

| source = Loofball Official Site

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| ind_just = See above

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| rel_just = See above

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| sig_just = See above

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{{ source assess

| source = The Nation

| ind = -

| ind_just = Consists partially of interview with creator of Loofball

| rel = y

| rel_just = The Nation is an established newspaper

| sig = y

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{{ source assess

| source = Prezi

| ind = ?

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| rel = n

| rel_just = User generated content

| sig = ?

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{{ source assess

| source = Afritalenation

| ind = ?

| ind_just =

| rel = n

| rel_just = Appears to be a self-published blog

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{{ source assess

| source = Basic Loofball Coaching Manual

| ind = n

| ind_just = Official rules of game

| rel = y

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| sig = y

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{{ source assess

| source = mea-markets

| ind = ?

| ind_just =

| rel = ?

| rel_just =

| sig = n

| sig_just = Not about loofball

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{{ source assess

| source = FuNDAMENTAL LOOFBALL GUIDE FOR SCHOOLS

| ind = n

| ind_just = Made by LSDI, who are effectively the subject

| rel = ?

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| sig = y

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{{ source assess

| source =

| ind = ?

| ind_just = I could not access this source. Sorry.

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Between The Nation and NTA, I see enough to justify a (weak) Keep, but I would prefer to Draftify because another good source would really cement this article. casualdejekyll 19:26, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

• Draftify. It's received one decent piece of coverage in NTA and something a little less concrete in The Nation. We only need a little more coverage to firmly meet GNG and it seems moderately likely this will emerge in the coming months. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 09:22, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

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