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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ludwig Augustinsson

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was was no consensus Ludwig Augustinsson and delete Hampus Zackrisson. In the former case, while the keep voters did concede that the subject did not literally pass the NFOOTBALL criteria, they do make a reasonable argument that the WP:GNG is met, and that passing NFOOTBALL will happen in the very near future. Sjakkalle (Check!) 16:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:24, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following article for similar reasons. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

:{{la|Hampus Zackrisson}} {{Find sources|Hampus Zackrisson}}

:Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete as per nom, there is no indication that these footballers are notable, little indepth online sources available. Looks like they may become notable in the future once they start playing professionally but not just at the moment. Fenix down (talk) 08:53, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete - both fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 10:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Keep I'm extremely uninterested in sport myself and therefore I know nothing about Augustinsson and Zackrisson myself, but as far as I can see from the articles on enwp as well as svwp they are both players within Allsvenskan, which according to its article here "is a Swedish professional league for association football clubs. At the top of the Swedish football league system, it is the country's primary football competition [my italics]. /FredrikT (talk) 09:40, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

:You'll note that neither of them have actually in Allsvenskan. They're both signed to clubs in that league, but neither has appeared in any matches. This scenario is explicitly excluded as a source of notability in WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:21, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

::I was about to say the same thing; but Augustinsson has made appearances with a Superettan club that, following the last season he played with them, was promoted to Allsvenskan. I assume the Superettan is also a fully professional league? (That doesn't apply to Zackrisson, however.) squibix(talk) 18:22, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

:::According to the list fully pro league, Superettan is not fully pro. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:09, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete Zackrisson - fails WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG, Keep Augustinsson - even though he fails WP:NFOOTBALL, there are a lot of online coverage about this guy, and [http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/Ludwig-Augustinsson-Jag-ar-100-procent-fotboll-468372.aspx this detailed interview] and [http://www.bt.se/sport/bps-superlofte-pa-besok-hos-elfsborg(3563724).gm this] is pretty detailed from independent reliable sources. There is also [http://www.tipselit.se/Startsida/Turneringar/Gothia-Tipselit-Trophy-2011/Ludwig-siktar-hogt/ this], and [http://www.svd.se/sport/17-aring-avgjorde-i-bps-premiar_6983839.svd this] which should be enough to pass the general notability guideline. There are also a whole lot of news-articles with transfer-rumours, and even though those aren't enough to establish notability, some of them are detailed and should be enough to write a very detailed article about him. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:16, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 03:08, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete Zackrisson, Keep Augustinsson. Augustinsson has played competitive for IFK Göteborg in the national cup and will play in the national league in four weeks (unless he gets seriously injured). Yes I know this doesn't satisfy the notability criteria, but let's be sensible here, the article about him will be recreated in less than a month's time if it gets deleted, so why not just keep it for the time being? He has also gained significant coverage in national newspapers. – Elisson • T • C • 11:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.