Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mabini-Borja, Dinagat Islands

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This barangay (village) in the Dinagat Islands does not appear to meet WP:GNG. The sources on the article are Google maps and [https://www.philippinesplace.com/listing/borja-elementary-school-cagdianao-dinagat-islands/ Philippines Places] which do not provide much information. Other web sources just mention the baarangay by name. Jollibinay (talk) 10:38, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 14:27, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 14:27, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

• Question Does coverage exist in the other local languages? 165.91.13.29 (talk) 15:15, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:GEOLAND and WP:NPLACE as an officially recognised populated place. Existence verified in multiple sources [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1_DrAAAAMAAJ&q=Mabini-Borja&dq=Mabini-Borja&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVpu-HhsDbAhWqI8AKHZz8BT0Q6AEIMjAC][https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lLAUAQAAMAAJ&q=Mabini-Borja&dq=Mabini-Borja&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVpu-HhsDbAhWqI8AKHZz8BT0Q6AEINjAD][http://www.mgbr13.ph/MGB-R13DataFiles/Geology/Maps/10K/Dinagat/Hillshade/4120_IV_14_TALISAY_HS.pdf][https://www.pep-net.org/sites/pep-net.org/files/CBMS/Publications/CBMSPovertyMaps_Vol2_Dinagat_Islands.pdf][https://psa.gov.ph/sites/default/files/attachments/hsd/pressrelease/Caraga.pdf][https://www.dbm.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/Issuances/IRA/IRA2014/Barangay/RO13/Dinagat.pdf]. SpinningSpark 22:16, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

{{U|Spinningspark}} It's not about its existence, but rather its notability. It appears on maps and censuses, but that's it.Jollibinay (talk) 11:34, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

• ...which means that at the very least we could expand the page by adding population information and map co-ordinates. We also have a source on flood risk. From WP:GEOLAND; "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low." From WP:PRESERVE; "Preserve appropriate content. As long as any facts or ideas would belong in an encyclopedia, they should be retained in Wikipedia." So in guidelines and policy we should not delete this page. At the very worst it would be merge and redirect, but I would not support even that, at least not until we have heard from someone with access to a regional newspaper archive. There are quitee a few results coming up on HighBeam that look promising from the snippets but only the opening para is accessible e.g. [https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-177877522.html bridge opening][https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-153175373.html mining][https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-348976828.html storm flooding]. SpinningSpark 16:08, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:GEOLAND and WP:NPLACE. It clearly exists, it's clearly a legally recognized populated place. In this case, that's enough. Smartyllama (talk) 15:17, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:GEOLAND, as a Barangay, meets criteria. MB 17:49, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
• Redirect and all other barangay pages of Cagdianao, Dinagat Islands to the town's article. All of these pages contain no cited information besides stating the barangay being part of Cagdianao. GEOLAND is just a guideline and just states that legally recognized places are typically notable (not always).Hariboneagle927 (talk) 10:18, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
• I gave three links to Highbeam results that go beyond a GEOLAND argument, and there are more available. Have you considered those? SpinningSpark 13:09, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

• Keep and improve — according to page 21 of this {{URL|1=https://psa.gov.ph/sites/default/files/attachments/hsd/pressrelease/Caraga.pdf|2=government document}}, the barangay had 812 people in 2010 and {{URL|1=http://www.nea.gov.ph/2015-census-of-population-of-households?download=1711%3Acaraga|2=912 people}} in 2015. It would seem to be large enough to warrant at least a short article. Green Giant (talk) 18:04, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

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