Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mad Men episodes

=[[Smoke Gets in Your Eyes (Mad Men episode)]]=

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Redirect all to Mad Men. These are all stub articles for individual television episodes which are not independently notable. They consist of nothing but the title of the episode and the original air date. Per WP:FICT these articles should not presently exist until such time as the reliable sourcing for them exists. A complete list, including links to the official synopsis, is already in the main article. An attempt to redirect them was reverted so I bring them here for the consensus of the community. Otto4711 17:12, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment: WP:FICT does not apply here. The episodes have real-world existence -- they are not fictional objects. —Quasirandom 18:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

:*Fine, WP:WAF whatever, the point still stands that the episodes are not individually independently notable. Otto4711 18:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Redirect per nom. No more bongos 17:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge to List of Mad Men episodes, and make that an actual list instead of a redirect to Mad Men. The individual episodes have not established notability independent of the show, but the stubby information belongs in an episode list. —Quasirandom 18:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

:*I redirected the list because it was nothing but the same episode chart in the main article, minus the links to the AMC episode synopses. The main article is not so massive, nor is the information about the episodes so extensive, that a separate list article for them is required. Otto4711 18:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

::* I wouldn't object to a merge to Mad Max instead. —Quasirandom 21:46, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Redirect all for lack of content and established notability. I think the nom is referring to the guideline WP:EPISODE. – sgeureka t•c 19:03, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Yes, these are all stubs, they are in the process of being developed. Due to work and life I do not have unlimited time to be working on WIkipedia. Wikipedia has individual episode entries for the television shows Seinfeld, Lost, Family Guy, The Sopranos, The Simpsons, etc., etc. The articles in this AfDs are properly marked as stubs, and should not be deleted just because they are stubs. — Steven Andrew Miller (talk) 20:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • The shows you have referenced have ran for years, Mad Men only has 13 episodes and one season. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 22:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect to List of Mad Men episodes Non notable episodes and fails WP:EPISODE. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 22:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

:*I have nominated the list of episodes for deletion or redirect. I tried redirecting it to the main article, where an identical list already resides, but it was reverted without comment. Otto4711 22:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

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