Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magic gopher

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Unverified article for a little flash application; the internet reveals no significant discussion of the topic in multiple sources. Or even insignificant discussion in one source. Drmies (talk) 20:52, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep There's insignificant discussion in 10,000 sources http://www.google.com/search?q="magic+gopher, including commercial educational resources ([http://www.nelson.com/mathfocus/grade7/student/webquests/ch1.html]) NE Ent 21:04, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 21:07, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 21:09, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

• Weak keep. Extensive online mentions, some less horrid than others. I've added two that analyse it and link to alternate versions of the same game or trick. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete Nothing reasonable appears in any of my searches, and if it were notable something reasonable would pop up. Explicitly checked magazines, news, etc. Mentions online don't assert notability. Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 21:37, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
• Merge or Rename to ???. The particular flash game isn't a notable thing. The concept outlined in most of the article, simple arithmetical "mind-reading" parlour tricks, is a notable thing.[http://www.wikihow.com/Read-Someone's-Mind-With-Math-(Math-Trick)][http://www.numericana.com/answer/magic.htm#9][http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/640252/magic-trick-to-read-your-mind][http://books.google.com/books?id=BbGjAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=nine+magic+tricks+number+guessing&source=bl&ots=BhqAXiXbHh&sig=eCKKic5aNBLGuZQh_CCHMzBB8zA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5NUFVIeGOMHlaNPRgIgM&ved=0CGkQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=nine%20magic%20tricks%20number%20guessing&f=false]. If there isn't an article already, there should be one. This just looks like an article about a simple magic trick that is backwards-ly named after a single instance where the trick was performed. The practice of using multiples of nine to entertainingly "mind-read" has been around for centuries, this flash game didn't invent the idea.__ E L A Q U E A T E 14:57, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
• Comment. Yes, I put 2 of those in the article, if I'm remembering the URLs correctly. I wondered whether this particular number property or trick has a name; if so I agree, a move to that name would be the best outcome. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:46, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
• Rename to something, yes, though I'm not sure what. Calling this article "magic gopher" would be like calling the article for Seven Bridges of Königsberg "extra reading of chapter 7 of my discrete mathematics textbook" (or whatever, just giving an example). The specific app itself isn't notable as far as I can tell. Ansh666 03:24, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. This article is about a non-notable app. I would not be opposed to a merge/rename, but someone needs to identify a clear target. Sławomir Biały (talk) 10:58, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
• Comment. These are some interesting comments. Thank you all. Drmies (talk) 14:21, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
• Comment. We do have an article on the general subject, Recreational mathematics, but it doesn't look like a good fit for a specific instance. Can anyone see anything in the greater {{cl|Recreational mathematics}} that would be a merge candidate? __ E L A Q U E A T E 14:20, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete or recast as Multiples of nine, which is the name of the trick that the sources are about. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:23, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

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:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 17:35, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• delete. Nowhere near enough for notability and none has been provided here: google hits don't establish it. We already have a page on divisibility rules, and this is a piece of trivial mental arithmetic based on the rule for nine. There are numerous tricks like these, based on divisibility, properties of numbers, etc.. I don't see that this is particularly notable or interesting.--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 02:06, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. No in-depth and reliable sources on this app (as opposed to the simple and well-known mathematics behind it) that would show notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 02:06, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete - software (app) article of unclear notability, lacking significant RS references. Refs provided are a brief mention in a blog, and a page about the math concept that does not discuss the app at all. A search turned up no significant RS coverage of this app.Dialectric (talk) 11:08, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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