Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manchester Titans

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Apparently non-notable American Football team in the UK. The only significant thing a google news and web search turns up a single Manchester Evening News [http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1186788_hollywoods_the_next_step_for_strictly_star_ricky article]. The article is actually about Ricky Whittle who is probably more notable for being in Strictly Come Dancing and Hollyoaks, and the mention of the team is in the trivia section (he plays for the team).

Living in the city of Manchester I can honestly say I have never heard of the team. Perhaps the teams own Photobucket (linked on page) site says all that needs to be said about its notability. The crowds are virtually non-existent.

A secondary problem is that the article is completely unreferenced. Given the lack of sources, I dont see how this can be remedied. Pit-yacker (talk) 12:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: Also found a [http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/american_football/6548333.stm BBC News] article from 2007 that gives a one sentence mention in an article about another team. Pit-yacker (talk) 12:47, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

EDIT 2: The history section is a cut and paste of the teams own [http://www.manchester-titans.co.uk/club/history website]. I'll also note the existence of the book "American Football Teams in England" with the following summary from Google books Please note that the content of this book primarily consists of articles available from Wikipedia or other free sources online Pit-yacker (talk) 12:55, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. —Pit-yacker (talk) 13:07, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

• Delete. Refs aren't anything, some minor bits in the news. Their website shows they have no sponsors and nobody posts to the club forum. Szzuk (talk) 19:50, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

:: Add. In game photos show no fans... Szzuk (talk) 19:52, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

• Delete otherwise Merge to BAFA National Leagues, the club's parent league. Insufficient significant coverage in WP:INDEPENDENT sources. Current article is sourced from the team's own website plus its league's website. In addition to sources listed in the nomination, additional Manchester Evening News sources at [http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/s/1313704_manchester_titans_20__12_clyde_valley_blackhawks Manchester Titans 20 - 12 Clyde Valley Blackhawks] and [http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/s/1316463_titans_now_in_the_final_four Titans now in the final four]. Also one source at [http://menmedia.co.uk/southmanchesterreporter/sport/s/1113982_trapping_the_wolves South Manchester Reporter]. However, WP:GNG says "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability.", so we cannot overweight the Manchester Evening News coverage. Therefore, GNG's expectation of multiple sources is not met.—Bagumba (talk) 22:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
• Delete as a blatant copyright violation. The bulk of this article has been copied word-for-word from the team's own web site, and removing that would leave precious little to establish notability. Malleus Fatuorum 22:42, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

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