Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manfred Hamilton

=[[Manfred Hamilton]]=

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Wikipedia is not a memorial site, but that's what this article feels like, even after continued cleanup. The subject's claim to fame is winning a "Mr. Universe" title in the over 60 category in 2004. However, it does not appear to be a notable competition, as neither WFF Universe nor GMV Bodybuilding has an article. The only source that corroborates the title is the sponsor's website. Not even the illustrations can be relied upon, as they're created by a member of the subject's family. Finally, speaking of member of the subject's family, {{user|Jizzom}} (note: user is requesting a username change to {{user|grumet_kaz}}) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Manfred_Hamilton&diff=prev&oldid=368399112 admitted to being the subject's son], so there is a severe conflict of interest on the part of the main contributor. —C.Fred (talk) 02:55, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Im not sure If I'm allowed to write here? Im new to this, But I just trying to stop This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. I would just like to leave the artical as is, I know how you feel that its not a Memorial Page But I've tried to make it less, with just Infomation. And will leave as is(I have contacted NABBA/WFF) Friends of Manie and are wating on their site to update with list of all tittles untill then I would love to just leave as is. And keep Manfred Hamilton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jizzom (talkcontribs) 03:37, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Is [http://www.worldfitnessfederation.de/nabba/frame1/1_wff_results5.html this] him (in the over 60s cat)? Keep if so. Albeit a major re-write needed. Eliteimp (talk) 11:36, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
  • : It might be, but do you notice that http://www.worldfitnessfederation.de is not actually a valid URL by itself? There is no year specified, no contact information, no validation - I can't begin to see it as a reliable source (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
  • :: What about that page makes you think he's a keep based on that result? What about that website (and the root page is http://www.worldfitnessfederation.de/nabba/frame1/navi_wff.html with nothing higher level) confers more notability on the competition than it had before you found it? —C.Fred (talk) 12:50, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
  • :::I think it's clear from that page and [http://www.worldfitnessfederation.de/nabba/frame1/r_wm_04.html NABBA] that the guy was competing at the top level of international amateur bodybuilding. I also think it ridiculous that the user has been blocked for supposedly having a "lewd synonym" for a user name. Eliteimp (talk) 15:06, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
  • :::: What? You think "jism" (what the Oxford English Dictionary calls "vulgar, slang" for semen) is an ok username?? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:35, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete very few body builders meet WP:GNG (including this one), there is no WP:ATHLETE for Body Building, and he does not appear to have been a professional -Drdisque (talk) 17:47, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

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