Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Margaret Elizabeth Gates Wallace

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 04:35, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

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Delete. Actually, a simple redirect appears appropriate for this article. The subject is the mother of First Lady, Bess Truman. Nothing in this article presents significance, importance, or notability outside of the notability of her daughter. Even the article states that the subject lived an uneventful life. Sources include a book about First Ladies and Find-A-Grave, which is unreliable. Cind.amuse 10:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

::Redirect. Notability is not inherited. Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:47, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Keep. I agree that the article is poor, and when I came across it I initially thought as you did. But if you did a search (for Madge Wallace Truman) on Google Books, as I suggested, you'd find that her influence on Bess and Harry has been discussed by many reliable commentators. The article could be considerably expanded using these sources. By the way, just a correction: the article states she lived an uneventful life until her husband committed suicide. —SMALL JIM 11:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete or redirect. I've revised my opinion after looking in greater depth at a selection of the Google Books hits that allow preview - there's far less independent evidence of notability than I thought at first. Basically she was a strict woman who disapproved of Truman, was probably anti-semitic, fell apart after her husband committed suicide, died in the White House aged 90, and left less in her will than expected. Not enough for independent notability. —SMALL JIM 15:40, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:18, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Delete as per WP:GNG, just not notable. Mtking (talk) 05:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

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