Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Boyle

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The result was delete. -Scottywong User talk:Scottywong 16:47, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

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Contested PROD. Concern was Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. PROD was contested on the grounds that he is a talented youngster [has] represented his nation at youth levels and is ... much discussed. I see no evidence that this discussion has generated significant coverage, and WP:NSPORT explicitly excludes youth footballers, meaning both points are invalid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 10:45, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Boyle is not a youth player, he was the top scorer across the Scottish football league and spent the 2nd half of last season training with Aberdeen of the Scottish Premier League and won awards at the SFL Awards night for 2012 http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/news/article/irn-bru-sfl-end-of-season-awards-201112/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.18.8.23 (talk) 10:54, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

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Delete as original PRODder - this player fails both WP:GNG (due to lack of significant coverage) and WP:NFOOTBALL (he has not played in a fully-professional league). Giant Snowman 11:14, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 13:48, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Delete The SFL is semi professional so this player hasn't played in a fully pro league and the victory shield doesn't count for notability I'm afraid Seasider91 (talk) 14:16, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Possible keep Doesn't meet WP:NFOOTBALL as the bottom of the SFL is semi-pro, but he's got a lot of Scottish press coverage[http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4301681/Celtic-Killie-want-our-Ginger-Boot.html][http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/football/news/article/-/13623655/celtic-and-kilmarnock-get-in-line-with-aberdeen-for-montroses-boyle/][http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/2785259][http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/2838758] as well as the more routine stuff e.g.[http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2012/05/24/transfer-talk-thursday-may-24-2012-old-firm-want-james-hibs-close-in-on-clancy-boyle-for-killie-86908-23871765/][http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/montrose/305966-montrose-vs-clyde-full-time-report/][http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/2214734][http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/leaguedivision3/4300796/Division-Three-title-day.html] and a long article on the SFL website[http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/news/article/youngster-boyle-is-no-slouch-when-it-come-to-goals/]. If you decide to delete, I'd suggest incubation/userification, as based on some of those reports, he may well become notable soon. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:17, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

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Delete - the article is about a footballer who fails WP:NFOOTBALL, and the links provided by Colapeninsula are from my point of view all routine transfer-coverage except the last one, but that isn't enough to pass WP:GNG. He might be notable soon, but it wouldn't be a problem to undelete/recreate the article once he is notable. Mentoz86 (talk) 23:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Keep - Except the last one ... which passes WP:GNG. Hirest scorer in SFL last year. Which explains the burst of media coverage. Hence meeting WP:GNG. Not sure why users are focusing on WP:NSPORT and WP:FOOTY when they are trumpted by WP:GNG. Nfitz (talk) 15:22, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Delete - To answer the previous editor's question: Because WP:GNG is a guideline, not a suicide pact. The general notability guideline was not created with the intent that everything that has ever received independent coverage, anywhere, ever, somehow automatically is encyclopedic. I concur with the nominator's appraisal. Trusilver 06:35, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Delete - per nom. There is nothing independent of his youth play that would raise him out of WP:NFOOTBALL. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 14:03, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

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