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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin T. Buell

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. MBisanz talk 23:10, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

=[[Martin T. Buell]]=

:{{la|Martin T. Buell}} ([{{fullurl:Martin T. Buell|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin T. Buell}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

Was prodded by someone else with "A search for references has failed to find significant coverage in reliable sources in order to comply with notability requirements. This has included web searches for news coverage, books, and journals, which can be seen from the following links:
[http://www.google.com/search?&as_eq=wikipedia&as_epq={{urlencode:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}} {{SUBPAGENAME}}] – [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?&as_src=-newswire+-wire+-presswire+-PR+-press+-release&as_epq={{urlencode:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}} news], [http://books.google.com/books?&as_brr=0&as_epq={{urlencode:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}} books], [http://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_epq={{urlencode:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}} scholar]
Consequently, this article is about a subject that appears to lack sufficient notability." I agree. Article is promotional/vanity with no reliable sources and no claim to any reason that Wikipedia readers would care. DreamGuy (talk) 14:51, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Weak Keep I prodded this article when is was a cut & past of web sites. Esasus has since added "Buell is a former commissioner for the Professional Karate Association and a former rating chairman for Karate Illustrated Magazine." If this had a citation, I would be satisfied with its notability. jmcw (talk) 15:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

:Not sure those meet our criteria for notability, but until such time as reliable sources proving it are found I don't know that I'd trust the claim in the first place. DreamGuy (talk) 18:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

::Ebay has old editions of 'Karate Illustrated' with Buell's name on the cover. I believe he was editor: I just would like a better reference than an Ebay photo. jmcw (talk) 11:03, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:::We could just ask the editor to provide the source so we know if it's trustworthy information. - Mgm|(talk) 09:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

::::So would any editor of any magazine no matter about size, scope or attention the world paid to them at large be proof of notability? No. There would have to be outside sources documenting notability. So this particular line of thought is a moot point. DreamGuy (talk) 14:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Keep - as former commissioner for the Professional Karate Association, and as former rating chairman for Karate Illustrated Magazine, with additional coverage as he has received as the head of a franchised karote school, the subject meets the minimum standard for notability. Esasus (talk) 22:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
  • comment I am having trouble with the link http://www.warrenkempo.com/index.php?categoryid=11. Do you know of a more reliable one? Thanks. jmcw (talk) 10:59, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Again we have User:Esasus in a deletion discussion showing up to make claims of notability but not bothering to support them with any real sources. If there's additional coverage, show it, and hen we can see if it meets WP:RS and WP:NOTABILITY standards. It's up to the article to demonstrate notability. DreamGuy (talk) 14:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
  • question DreamGuy, do you and Esasus have personal disagreements? jmcw (talk) 13:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

:::: DreamGuy has been stalking me since I disagreed with him in a discussion a few weeks back. He has been just been blocked for 55 hours for his dispuptions on another matter [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADreamGuy&diff=275496477&oldid=275493283] so we will have peace for the weekend, but watch out for sockpuppets. Esasus (talk) 23:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Keep - Notability well established as former commissioner of PKA. Winner of notable competitions. Article is adequately referenced. Proxy User (talk) 19:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.