Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Lupien

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WP:BLP of a city councillor, not properly sourced as passing WP:NPOL #2. As always, city councillors are not all automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to have a significant volume and depth of WP:GNG-worthy coverage about them and their work: specific things they did, specific projects they spearheaded, specific effects their work had on the development of the city, and on and so forth. But this just goes "biographical background, elected twice, running for mayor this year, the end", which isn't what we need to see for content, and it's referenced to one primary source and three hits of cursory verification of her election results, which isn't what we need to see for sourcing.
People also do not get articles just for standing as candidates in future elections they haven't already won, so declaring her candidacy for mayor isn't a notability boost either. Rochester is a large enough city that she'll likely become eligible for an article if she wins the mayoral election once the ballots have been counted, but mayoral candidates don't get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates per se.
Simply existing as a city councillor is not "inherently" notable enough to exempt this article from having to have a lot more substance, and a lot more sources to support it, than this. Bearcat (talk) 15:31, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, and New York. Bearcat (talk) 15:31, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
• :This particular Wikipedia page is not exhaustive, but provides baseline biographical information for a major political figure in Rochester, NY. Holding public office does not entitle one to a Wikipedia page, however significance to regional culture, politics, history, etc. has long been used to deem eligibility of a Wikipedia page. Notable events, people, and places in Rochester often face barriers to entry in public forums given the diminishment or dismissal of their significance without due diligence to the media environment. Basic research on Mary Lupien in particular will point to her involvement in the aftermath of Daniel Prude's Killing, coverage of Rochester area policymaking, political dynamics in Western New York, national headline grabbing resistance to JD Vance, and public discourse on the Democratic Party. I understand that the current state of this page is minimal, but that was the point in creating it. Mary Lupien is a figure regularly discussed in media and government, so my intent is to create a framework for Wikipedia users to engage with and expand. As one person, I cannot in good faith attempt to singe-handedly source every substantive detail relevant to this or any topic. However, as a frequent user and participant in Rochester's local knowledge sharing, I can absolutely attest to the relevance and significance of Mary Lupien and numerous other topics. With pages like this, novice contributors with unique insights are punished for either 1) not adding enough information at one point in time or 2) creating too much bias or the perception thereof in what information is included. I am attempting to avoid this by sticking with easily sourced information on a topic significant to my community. The notability of this page's topic is absolutely significant enough to remain in the public forum at the very least to create a base for other users to contribute to. Swadd27 (talk) 16:03, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
• Delete. Thanks, nominator--now there's nothing I can add as a reason for deletion! Drmies (talk) 15:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
• Delete: Coverage is about her run for mayor or about saying things JD Vance didn't agree with [https://13wham.com/news/local/rochester-city-councilmember-mary-lupien-clashes-with-vice-president-jd-vance-over-housing-crisis-at-washington-dc-conference-congressional-cities-conference-housing-crisis], [https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/2025/03/12/mary-lupien-speaks-out-against-vice-president-jd-vance-on-housing-crisis/82265854007/], I don't really see these as being notable. Oaktree b (talk) 22:11, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
• Weak keep for now until the election is over. She might win and then we'd bring it back anyways. Jeanette The keeper Martin (si?) 02:26, 14 April, 2025 (UTC)
• Redirect or selective merge into 2025 Rochester mayoral election. She's barely below the threshold for notability. We've deleted many articles about candidates per NPOL. If she wins, the edit history is saved and the article can be re-created easily. Bearian (talk) 14:58, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
• Redirect to 2025 Rochester mayoral election as WP:ATD. Fails WP:NPOL and he should be mindful of WP:NOTCRYSTAL. Longhornsg (talk) 23:30, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Redirect to 2025 Rochester mayoral election - agree with above. If the candidate wins, an article about them can be re-created easily.

:WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 13:07, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

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