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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary and Anne of Denmark

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was procedural keep, pending result of merge discussion. As an administrator I wish to raise two technical points:

  1. It is suggested below that "the redirect is not required for attribution as it is already provided in the edit summary or {{tl|merged-from}}". This is impossible, because edit history (and therefore attribution) is lost at deletion.
  2. That said, a WP:HISTMERGE can be performed to remove the redirect and preserve the edit history. I am happy to do the Histmerge myself if the merge discussion decides that we should do so. Drop me a line on my user talk page if that's needed. Deryck C. 17:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

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The fact that few of Queen Anne's children lived past infancy is notable, but I would doubt very much if the children themselves are. Both these ladies died before the age of two and so it is extremely unlikely the article will ever be longer than it is at present. All the content of this article not already duplicated at Anne, Queen of Great Britain was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anne%2C_Queen_of_Great_Britain&action=historysubmit&diff=469426256&oldid=469422480 added to that article on 4 January], removing the purpose of a separate article. A discussion to merge has already been started, but no articles [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Mary_and_Anne_of_Denmark link here] except their parents', so there's no need for a redirect to remain in place. Opera hat (talk) 14:55, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep - Since when was there a minimum age limit on notability? Daughters of a future Queen would certainly have been notable. Sionk (talk) 16:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Comment - As the merge discussion hasn't yet closed and the merge isn't finalised, I think sending this article to AfD is premature, to say the least. Nonetheless, it's here so I may as well comment.

:I agree Mary and Anne are notable and worth mentioning for the reasons stated by Sionk. However, I don't believe they have independent significance. Their role in history is not on a scale similar to the Princes in the Tower. As the nominator alludes to, they are merely an example of Queen Anne's gravid misfortunes. The content of this article has been merged to their mother's article so a Redirect is probably in order. I'd like to agree with Operahat that a redirect is unnecessary but, being the source of a merge, we should keep it to provide attribution. ClaretAsh 10:40, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Surely a Procedural keep until an outcome is reached on the merger discussion. This article should never have been nominated for AFD. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 12:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete. Procedurally, I think this nomination should actually be closed first, as we are instructed by the AfD template not to blank or redirect the article while the deletion discussion is in progress. On the substantive issue of the article: the content is duplicated; and the names of the articles are unlikely search terms as the girls were not actually called either "of Denmark" or "Oldenburg"; and the redirect is not required for attribution as it is already provided in the edit summary [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain&diff=469426256&oldid=469422480] and can be further provided by Template:Merged-from. DrKiernan (talk) 12:50, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.