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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matilde Malvina Vernet

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 12:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

=[[Matilde Malvina Vernet]]=

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Claim to notability is false (the Spanish word "Malvinas" actually predates 1830 by some distance, and is generally accepted to have come from the French equivalent, Îles Malouines, named ultimately after the town of Saint Malo). Google Books finds [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&tbo=p&rlz=1C1GPMG_enGB360GB360&tbs=bks:1&q=%22Matilde+Malvina+Vernet%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= nothing], as does [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GPMG_enGB360GB360&q=%22Matilde+Malvina+Vernet%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Google web search]. I contend that she fails WP:N Pfainuk talk 20:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

:Question: is this speedyable under WP:G3? I didn't reread it before nominating, but it doesn't not fit. Pfainuk talk 20:19, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

::I don't think that there is a case under WP:G3, but there is a case under WP:G7 (non-notability). Facts that I believe to be significant are that the original author has been banned for disruptive editing and that the subject's middle name was "Malvinas" - the Spanish name for the Falkland Islands. There is no indication in the article that of any other notable aspect of her life. Martinvl (talk) 21:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

:::The creator was originally blocked for 48 hours for POV pushing on Falklands articles in the middle of last month. He was reblocked for a week yesterday after attempting to create a POV fork of Falkland Islands at Falklands colony, which was speedied per WP:A10 (clear content fork). I never saw the contents of that article, but I would imagine that it repeated the same problematic behaviour as before - hence the reblock. This article was created in between blocks and also takes a pro-Argentine line - but that's not (in and of itself) a reason for deletion.

:::I've reread WP:A7 (which I assume you meant), and I agree that it may well apply here since the only claim to notability is not credible. Pfainuk talk 22:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

::::Just for information but Malvina was a fairly common christian name at the time and was popular in the islands. The Malvina House Hotel in Stanley is named after the daughter of the original proprietor, it has nothing to do with the Spanish name for the islands ie it is merely a co-incidence. Justin talk 15:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Merge with Luis Vernet. I don't see any evidence of its notability for a biographical article. The relevant point is its relation with Luis Vernet; IMO it shouldn't be more than a mention in that article. pmt7ar (talk) 02:54, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Update: Delete. pmt7ar (talk)

::There's not really much to merge. On closer inspection, most of the details the article contains on this individual are incorrect based on the source - including both her name and her date of birth. Given this, I'd suggest that this would be is a distinctly unlikely redirect. We would be better off appropriating the source (or indeed finding other, better sources for Luis Vernet's family) and writing our own text on Vernet's children. Pfainuk talk 07:33, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

:::I don't know about this character, it seems there isn't enough info online about her. Apart from the irishgenealogy site, I found [http://abc.gov.ar/docentes/efemerides/2deabril/html/historia/luisvernet.html] which seems reliable and only says that Vernet/Sáez had their fourth children on East Falkland and was called Malvina Vernet. Didn't found anything about her name Matilde. That link could be useful to add some mention of her and other details to Luis's article. No need for this article. pmt7ar (talk) 08:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 01:55, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Strong Delete Non-notable, contains misleading, inaccurate information and should have been deleted as a speedy under WP:G7 not relisted. Justin talk 07:54, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete - I don't think the author meant to imply that the Spanish name for the islands came from her; but in any case, absolutely no notability. JohnCD (talk) 15:02, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.