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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mbayi Kafwemb

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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I can't find reliable sources for this. Dougweller (talk) 20:16, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:43, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete. Unverifiable. But I'm willing to change my opinion if someone finds a source for this. The name may be poorly transcribed. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 09:02, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment. I think Vejvančický is right when they say the name may be poorly transcribed. I will try to find some reliable sources. I believe the article has been here since 2007. With it being poorly transcribed (if it is), it would be difficult to find sources especially if one is unfamiliar with the subject, however it is not impossible. At present, I do not support delete. Tamsier (talk) 04:51, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete. The article is written anecdotally and unverifiable at present. Writers should bear in mind that at least one or two points of verifiable evidence should be presented when the article is started. I suggest that content be retained within the Bakwa Dishi tribe article rather than a separate article ... then some references could turn up. My knowledge base is in Lingala and the Mongo related tribes - so I don't know how much the name fits the pattern of the Luba language. If I understand what has been presented here and elsewhere, "Mbayi" is a title and so "Kafwemb" is the name. - Oh, here's something: There are several generations of Mwato Kazembe mentioned as part of the Lunda kingdom ... it could be the same name, or not. [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VCPddQtZz8AC&pg=PA40&lpg=PA40&dq=Mayi+Kazembe&source=bl&ots=rJp5K1xlKi&sig=BH9D5P__JYuI-wdzTX11FqrJWgw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Xq96T4OpDqOn0QW68_SUCQ&ved=0CE8Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Mayi%20Kazembe&f=false ref] Francis Hannaway (talk) Francis Hannaway 08:20, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

:... just a little note more, which might tie that name in a little more, [http://semanticus.info/de/meaning/Mbayi-Kafwemb-24333865/ here] Francis Hannaway 08:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Comment. For the purposes of transperency, I invited Francis and other members of the project Congo who may be more familiar with the subject to shed some light as to whether the name is transcribed in error or not. That was after I tried to find reliable sources but failed. Thank you so much Francis for your contribution. Your links make sense. Totally agree, it is the writers responsibility to cite atleast one reliable source.Tamsier (talk) 11:01, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

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