Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Megan Gilkes
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:25, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
=[[:Megan Gilkes]]=
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Inactive racing driver with no notable success outside entry-level categories, failing WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT. Sources are routine (Formula Scout), primary (GB3 Championship, Formula One Management on behalf of F1 Academy), or dubious hobbyists (Cars Yeah, Norris McDonald's Racing Review, Motorsport Prospects). MSportWiki (talk) 23:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Motorsport, Canada, Sportspeople, and Women. MSportWiki (talk) 23:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. It looks like she meets WP:SIGCOV/WP:SPORTSBASIC with the sources currently cited in the article... Not seeing how the nominator came to the conclusion that they are making about WP:GNG. @{{u|MSportWiki}} Could you please provide a source analysis through a WP:SIRS template to explain your thinking? Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:24, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- :@4meter4 Gilkes has not achieved notable results in her field, in this case motorsport. Simply looking at the career summary, Formula Ford 1600 and 1200 drivers are not notable enough for a biographical article, and her results in somewhat notable series (F1 Academy and W Series) are also not good enough to warrant an article. Regarding sources;
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Source || Significant? || Independent? || Reliable? || Secondary? || Pass/Fail || Notes | ||||||
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W Series profile | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | {{nay}} | Primary source. |
Cars Yeah | {{nay}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | Blog post. |
DriveTribe | {{aye}} | {{hmmm}} | {{hmmm}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | Social media platform. |
Motorsport Prospects | {{nay}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | Blog post. |
Momentum Motorsport profile | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | {{nay}} | Company-sponsored profile. |
Formula Scout | {{hmmm}} | {{aye}} | {{aye}} | {{aye}} | {{hmmm}} | Formula Scout is a common source for entry-level motorsports championships, however none of the championships she has competed in meet the WP:NMOTORSPORT table of notability. |
Canadian Automobile Sport Clubs – Ontario | {{nay}} | {{hmmm}} | {{hmmm}} | {{nay}} | {{nay}} | Automobile club of which the subject is a member. |
Formula One Management (F1 Academy) | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | {{nay}} | Primary source. |
Racers - Behind the Helmet | {{hmmm}} | {{aye}} | {{aye}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | Somewhere between Formula Scout and a blog post. |
GB3 Championship | {{nay}} | {{nay}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | {{nay}} | Primary source from a championship which does not meet the WP:NMOTORSPORT table of notability. |
Norris McDonald's Racing Review | {{nay}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | {{aye}} | {{nay}} | Blog post. |
colspan=5| Total qualifying sources || 0 || {{align|left|{{nobold|There must be multiple qualifying sources to meet the notability requirements}}}} |
- :MSportWiki (talk) 04:52, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete based on excellent analysis above. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 09:21, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. For what it's worth, Gilkes is a race winner in W Series besides FFord and GB4. She's received decent attention (even post-retirement) in Canada ([https://www.thestar.com/autos/richmond-hill-woman-one-of-only-18-in-the-world-selected-to-contest-all-female/article_dfce38a3-056f-53d1-a132-3f48c033eb6d.html], [https://ici.radio-canada.ca/sports/1987778/course-auto-f1-megan-gilkes-pilote-academie-ingenieure-aston-martin], [https://ici.radio-canada.ca/sports/2034133/f1-megan-gilkes-aston-martin], [https://www.poleposition.ca/actualite/2023/03/08/la-pilote-canadienne-megan-gilkes-rejoint-le-peloton-de-la-nouvelle-serie-f1-academy/]), been interviewed by Feeder Series ([https://feederseries.net/2023/01/07/gb4s-megan-gilkes-on-aston-martin-f1-work-experience-its-been-a-fantastic-experience/], [https://feederseries.net/2023/08/15/rodin-carlins-gilkes-on-f1-academy-a-really-good-series-with-really-noble-goals/]) and CBC Television ([https://www.cbc.ca/kidsnews/post/qa-how-canadian-megan-gilkes-became-a-race-car-driver]), and DIVE-BOMB have covered her career in detail ([https://www.dive-bomb.com/article/woman-spotlight-wednesday-megan-gilkes]). Her W Series win was naturally reported by several big publications ([https://www.motorsport.com/w-series/news/gilkes-reverse-grid-race-assen/4498453/], [https://speedcafe.com/gilkes-wins-non-championship-w-series-race-at-assen/], [https://www.motorsportweek.com/2019/07/21/23759/], [https://ici.radio-canada.ca/sports/1230923/course-automobile-w-series-megan-gilkes-assen-pays-bas], [https://www.diariomotor.com/competicion/noticia/las-w-series-aciertan-con-su-carrera-no-puntuable-3-milesimas-deciden-la-vencedora-en-assen/], [https://www.autosport.com/w-series/news/gilkes-confidence-boosted-no-end-after-assen-reversed-grid-race-win-4990918/4990918/], [https://www.motorsport-total.com/w-series/news/w-series-assen-megan-gilkes-gewinnt-zusatzrennen-im-fotofinish-19072101]) and while his could fall under WP:ONEEVENT, the combination of the above takes it a long way – in fact I'd say she's received much more WP:SIGCOV than her brother Nick Gilkes. While we're at it, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Gilkes#/media/File:Megan_Gilkes.jpg her photo] needs updating as I am pretty sure that's Max Marzorati. MSport1005 (talk) 13:29, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- :I cordially suggest you re-familiarise yourself with the notability guidelines for drivers at WP:NMOTORSPORT. Gilkes receiving SIGCOV for a non-championship race win in a fourth-tier feeder series category does not make her notable. Comparisons to her brother are WP:WHATABOUTISM. MSportWiki (talk) 21:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- ::W Series had audience and coverage far beyond its place in the ladder – and the relevance of a race isn't for us to judge. If it's WP:SIGCOV, it counts as WP:SIGCOV. MSport1005 (talk) 22:53, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per MSports1005. Article could be improved, but there seems to be significant coverage of her, and she completed a full season of F1A and (almost) a full season of W Series. Draftifying could work until article is improved, but a full deletion seems excessive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GalacticVelocity08 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for reasons already detailed above. Sandcat555 (talk) 12:21, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Reasons already mentioned above.NigelPorter (talk) 04:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
{{clear}}
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