Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mehmet Okonsar

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The result was no consensus (non-admin closure) Writing Enthusiast 00:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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Non-notable musician. Zero independent references, thus failing WP:BLP. Extensively edited by the subject themself, thus massive and inappropriate wP:COI and self-promotion the panda ₯’ 16:45, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

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I disagree on the deletion proposal based on:

The information on "Musicians - notable.." says:

9. as won or placed in a major music competition.

Thus please consider my several nominations and awards including the Gina Bachauer International Piano Competition (1991) among others

My opposition for the deletion proposal is based on the following:

There is no promotional or advertising tone in the article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28music%29#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles

''A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, instrumentalist, etc.) may be notable if it meets at least one of the following criteria:

Criteria for musicians and ensembles

section: 9

"Has won or placed in a major music competition."''

Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Bachauer_International_Piano_Competition

"Other notable laureates include Armen Babakhanian (1991), Mehmet Okonsar (1991), Violetta Egorova (1991), Kevin Kenner (1988), Vassily Primakov (2002), Lev Vinocour (2002), Luiza Borac (1998), and Junior competitors Nareh Arghamanyan (2000), Colleen Lee (1993), Rachel Cheung (2004), Aristo Sham (2008), Leonardo Colafelice (2012), Aimi Kobayashi (2012), Tony Yike Yang (2012), and Josh Wright[5] (2010)."

section: 5

Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).

Please see:

"TANGO, Best tangos by A. Piazzolla": personal arrangements for piano solo

"Mehmet Okonsar Plays Gershwin" Complete works for the solo piano by Georges Gershwin and a personal transcription of the Rhapsody in Blue

Published at: "Rec by Saatchi", founded by [https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ercan_Saat%C3%A7i Ercan Saatçi] a National (Turkish) label which complies with the specifications mentionned above regarding "important indie labels"

Please refer to: http://www.recbysaatchi.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artoffuge (talkcontribs) 07:52, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

The references below, all of them not self-posted, are only a few I could have gather in a limited time, if needed I can include them in the main article References section:

  • http://www.cazkolik.com/CazkolikRoportajDetaylari/100563/ -> an independent radio in Turkey
  • https://eksisozluk.com/mehmet-okonsar--511829?nr=true&rf=mehmet%20okonsar -> sort of "who's who" in Turkey
  • https://www.ttnetmuzik.com.tr/artist/Mehmet_Okonsar___Astor_Piazzolla/502102/galeri -> largest online music store in Turkey
  • http://www.last.fm/music/Mehmet+Okon%C5%9Far -> Turkey's largest radio station
  • http://www.eventbrite.com/e/pianist-mehmet-okonsar-countdown-100-years-of-western-music-in-turkey-2014-2023-tickets-10135713191 -> London Event
  • http://www.todayszaman.com/news-257285-okonsar-pays-tribute-to-liszt-with-new-release.html -> "Zaman" the Turkish newspaper with the largest circulation (English version)
  • http://www.acikgazete.com/ingiltere/2010/03/19/turk-piyanist-mehmet-okonsar-royal-opera-house-da.htm?aid=34359 -> online newspaper
  • http://e-gazete.anadolu.edu.tr/ayrinti.php?no=5493 -> online newspaper
  • http://www.radiosefarad.com/mehmet-okonsar-el-inventor-de-musicas/ -> online radio Spain
  • http://www.piano.or.jp/enc/Pianists/detail/115/ -> PTNA Japan, Japan's most important piano website
  • http://www.londragazete.com/?p=7101 -> London newspaper in Turkish
  • http://www.sabah.com.tr/Cumartesi/2012/01/14/onu-nazilerin-elinden-once-schubert-sonra-turkler-kurtardi -> Weissenberg and Okonsar (in Turkish, Turkey's third greatest circulation newspaper)
  • http://www.salom.com.tr/newsdetails.asp?id=76879 -> Turkey's Jewish newspaper, lecture on Ernst Bloch — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artoffuge (talkcontribs) 08:21, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Artoffuge (talk) 08:01, 2 September 2014 (UTC)


:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 07:40, 8 September 2014 (UTC)



:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:33, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


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