Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miranda Sings

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This is not separately notable from Colleen Ballinger. While the article is well referenced with reliable sources, these references do not demonstrate separate notability of the character from the performer. Given that this article is in fact longer than the article about Mrs. Ballinger herself, I propose that some content from this article should be merged into that article. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:10, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

::: Withdraw Clearly going nowhere. Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:55, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Internet, United States of America, and Fictional elements. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:10, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
• Merge – already enough overlap with Colleen Ballinger that WP:SPINOUT does not apply. small jars tc 03:13, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. This AfD may have a bit of unintentional recency bias, as an apparent recent controversy may have obscured the fact that the subject of this article meets WP:GNG/WP:WEBCRIT on its own. Note that many of the cited articles are about the character with only a passing reference to the performer's name, eg [https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/This-Week-3215414.php], or making clear a distinction of the character from the performer, eg [https://web.archive.org/web/20141006162349/http://sosogay.co.uk/2013/review-miranda-sings-leicester-square-theatre/]. Even if it wasn't notable on its own, it's an WP:OKFORK by content and length, (Overlap excluded, articles together are above 6000 words which would be the disqualifier), and also noting that this article predates the article on the performer. —siroχo 04:08, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep. The character is independently notable, separate from its creator. It is the subject of thousands of YouTube videos, its own Netflix series and there are hundreds of WP:Reliable sources about the character rather than the creator. Compare Dame Edna Everage and Barry Humphries. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:25, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
• (Note:Ssilvers is responsible for most of the content on both articles) This is a classic WP:OTHERSTUFF argument. We don't have a separate article for Lily Savage for instance. Miranda Sings is her only notable persona, and her fame is deeply intertwined to the character, to a greater degree than Barry Humphries was to Everage. It makes sense to cover both topics in a single lengthy article. Hemiauchenia (talk) 05:43, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
• Keep. We have numerous other articles about comic characters (Alan Partridge from Steve Coogan, Mr Bean from Rowan Atkinson, Pee-wee Herman from Paul Reubens - the list goes on and on). The character passes GNG, and there is enough distance between character and creator to keep them separate. - SchroCat (talk) 07:03, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
• Keep. Independently notable apart from its creator. As said above, there are many instances where a fictional character has its own article independent of its creator. Jack1956 (talk) 07:12, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
• Keep - Genuinely surprised to see this nomination. I can't see any advantage to our readers in merging with the Ballinger article. Mentions above of the separate (and welcome) articles for the characters and creators of Dame Edna Everage and Mr Bean are very much ad rem in my view. Tim riley talk 16:09, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

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