Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mircea Filotti

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Yet another article in the Filotti family cruft bunch - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ligia Filotti, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Traian Filotti or Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Filotti family. From the unsourced text, we find out that Mircea Filotti was: a) an agronomist who once served as department head in the Agriculture Ministry; b) a filmmaker who only managed to put out one film, that no one seems to remember. Nothing that means WP:FILMMAKER or WP:PROF. Beyond this, the sources are virtually absent (google books only shows two works that are reliable and independent of the subject, both of which make passing mentions of his name). Dahn (talk) 15:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Delete Does not appear to satisfy WP:BIO as a filmmaker or academic. Is there a reliable source that he was "Department Head" of a national agriculture ministry? That does not gain the de facto "inherent notability" afforded to members of legislatures, but it might be something which gained coverage in books or newspapers in his country, which would then help to support notability. Edison (talk) 16:02, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

::At a quick glance over Romanian-language sources, it appears that Mircea Filotti is generally mentioned only by sites related to wikipedia, mirroring wikipedia content or spamming random combinations of names. His name doesn't appear in searches of Romanian magazines in on-line versions (observatorcultural, romlit etc.). Google books has two reliable Romanian sources that make brief mention of him (the ones I mentioned above), none of them mentioning him as an agronomist (they are those ones "cited" in the article, presumably from the google snippets). To be sure, I found [http://www.timpul.ro/magazines/30.pdf a third mention] in Timpul newspaper, which only notes that he was the author of a screenplay which director Jean Mihail was trying to produce. A search for his name in the [http://dspace.bcucluj.ro/handle/123456789/3 bcucluj archive of interwar magazines] turns up no results. I for one do not recall having ever met Mircea Filotti's name in any overview of Romanian politics or cinema that I ever came across. Of course, the article creator is free to try and disprove this assessment by adding reliable sources to the article, if any exist. So far, it looks like everything but the trivia about his film is entirely based on WP:OR. Dahn (talk) 16:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Delete - good analysis by Dahn; nothing in the form of independent, in-depth coverage indicates that Filotti's career was a particularly notable one.
• Edison, you asked if his position as a department head at the Agriculture Ministry might have garnered press attention in his day. Dahn's search indicates that was probably not the case, and let me make two notes. In Romanian ministries, it's uncommon for someone beneath the level of minister to be notable because of activities undertaken in that position – one occasionally sees it for state secretaries (the second level), but rarely below that. Second, I've picked two current department heads from the ministry, [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1128&bih=680&q=%22Antonia+Ivascu%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= Antonia Ivaşcu] (in charge of testing and recording plant varieties) and [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1128&bih=680&q=%22Dan+Axente%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= Dan Axente] (in charge of wine registration and certification). They have few overall hits; few in the press; and none, so far as I could tell, more than passing mentions. Given the much greater reach of the press today as opposed to the 1940s, I doubt Filotti was covered very much, and we certainly don't have evidence to that effect. - Biruitorul ^Talk 22:50, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

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