Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monster High (film)

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PROD deleted. Per WP:NFF, hasn't entered principal photography. Only reference is passing mention of franchise and IMDb. Last substantial mention from 2010 so no current indication even in development. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:17, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:17, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

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• Irritated Keep Delete - The lack of adequate sourcing when the article was created has again put us in this position. A three and a half year-old reference would normally suggest this is a vapor project, and would at best belong as a footnote in the main article. IMDb ref doesn't count for all the regular reasons. Coverage from [http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/liveaction-monster-high-film-announced/ 2013] is more recent but didn't convey much about the project. I found [http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Monster-High-Movie-Coming-Your-Daughters-2016-43147.html this reference], which is from 2014 and announces a proposed release date of October 16, 2016, however nobody had yet been cast and no director had been attached. [http://variety.com/2014/film/news/universal-sets-mattels-monster-high-for-oct-2016-release-1201189125/ Variety] indicated an October 7, 2016 release back in May 2014. A [http://variety.com/2015/film/news/channing-tatums-x-men-spinoff-to-hit-theaters-in-2016-1201393233/ January 2015 Variety] article mentions Monster High will be pitted against Gambit in March 2016, which is also supported by [http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fox-dates-gambit-assassins-creed-761265 this Jan 2015 source] and [http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/30701542 this Jan 2015 source]. Anyhow, while there isn't much news about specifics, the projects seem to have some steam. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:53, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

::Note that the WP:NFF says we need info that project has entered principal photography for an article to be created. "Sources must be used to confirm the start of principal photography after shooting has begun." At most this should be a section at Monster High until then. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

:::Point noted. I did a lot of searching to see if I could find any indication that principal photography had begun. I was not successful. Seems like it must have if they have a release date early next year, but my assumptions obviously have no bearing here, and we are in no hurry to include the information. Modifying !vote. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:32, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

• Delete Merge per the notability guidelines for future films, which states that stand-alone articles should be created after the start of filming. Before this threshold, there is no guarantee of an actual production. Development details can be summarized at Monster High, and if filming begins, a stand-alone article can be restored. Another approach, if desired, is to create Draft:Monster High (film) and maintain it until it is ready to be placed in the mainspace. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 17:19, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
• :Changed from delete to merge, which is probably the better approach where page history is preserved and a stand-alone article can be quickly re-established if filming does begin as planned. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 19:45, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
• Merge: As per WP:NFF, no source says that the principal photography has even started yet. It should be merged with the Monster High article until it's ready to be a standalone article. Esquivalience ^t 13:39, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
• Merge to Monster High – Films and TV specials. Per WP:NFF, "Until the start of principal photography, information on the film might be included in articles about its subject material, if available". NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:01, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

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