Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Namely (company)

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There are very strong points for keeping from experienced editors and sufficient policies are invoked. Apart from that, the nominator is indefinitely blocked for advertising, so the nomination could be a bad faith one to delete competitors' pages. (non-admin closure) ~ Ase1este_{charge-parity}^time 13:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

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Unambiguous advertising Mazurkevin (talk) 23:59, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2021 February 22. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 00:22, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 00:24, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 00:24, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Keep: Nominator does not appear to have done a WP:BEFORE search. The company has been the subject of non-promotional news coverage from Forbes -- the magazine, not the contributor network, which is a reliable source per WP:RSP -- (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2018/05/15/namely-fires-ceo/?sh=7c35305b11de); as well as TechCrunch (examples: https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/02/exclusive-hr-startup-namely-once-a-high-flier-gets-a-new-ceo-and-60-million-in-new-funding-to-soar-again/ and https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/01/namely-a-former-high-flier-slashes-staff-as-demand-for-its-hr-software-dries-up-in-the-pandemic; the author, Connie Loizos, was senior TechCrunch staff, and the coverage does not seem particularly promotional, so the caveats on TechCrunch in WP:RSP don't apply here.) There is also this article from Fortune (https://fortune.com/2014/11/04/namely-hr-software/) -- it's paywalled, so I can't immediately tell how in-depth it is, but the author, Erin Griffith, was a senior writer at the publication and now at NYT, so it is most likely independent coverage.

:So -- yet again -- AfD is not cleanup, and puffery alone is not a reason to delete (as opposed to clean up) an article on a subject that is otherwise notable. Gnomingstuff (talk) 02:38, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Note On a review of gnews, Techcrunch read like routine fundraising coverage. Same for the Fortune piece, which, too, is routine coverage based on a press release about $12 million in funding. You could be right but I do think this is closer to a deletion than a keep but we shall see. Mazurkevin (talk) 03:47, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
: Did you even read these? The earlier TechCrunch piece does not mention fundraising anywhere; it is about layoffs and turnover at the board level, while also delving somewhat into the history of the company in a way that implies that the journalist, not the company, finds it notable. The later TechCrunch piece is a follow-up to that, by the same journalist, which also goes into significantly more detail including interviews with people outside the company, and reporting on the aforementioned turnover. The Forbes article is further reporting on that turnover. I don't know what's in the Fortune piece, as it is paywalled; if you have read the un-paywalled article I would certainly like to hear it. Gnomingstuff (talk) 06:38, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
: Per WP:CORPDEPTH: "For the coverage to be significant, the sources must describe and discuss in some depth the treatment of the employees or major changes in leadership instead of just listing the fact that the corporation employs 500 people or mentioning that John Smith was appointed as the new CEO." I fail to see any possible interpretation of the sources provided that does not qualify as discussing in some depth the major changes in leadership, among other things. Gnomingstuff (talk) 07:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
Reviews
1. {{cite news |last=Clymo |first=Rob |date=2021-02-02 |title=Namely employee management review |url=https://www.techradar.com/reviews/namely-employee-management |website=TechRadar |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20210228083440/https://www.techradar.com/reviews/namely-employee-management |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
  This is a detailed review of Namely. The review notes, "Bigger businesses though will love the power and flexibility offered by Namely, even though running costs are likely to be fairly sizeable too."
2. {{cite news |last1=Marvin |first1=Marvin |last2=Sevilla |first2=Gadjo |date=2019-07-11 |title=Namely Review |url=https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/namely |magazine=PCMag |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20210228083648/https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/namely |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
  This is a detailed review of Namely. The review lists cons as "An expensive option for larger businesses" and "Compensation section feels limited in tracking salary changes after performance reviews".
3. {{cite news |last=Wescott |first=Shelbi |date=2020-03-13 |title=Namely Review |url=https://www.merchantmaverick.com/reviews/namely-review/ |website=Merchant Maverick |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20210228084223/https://www.merchantmaverick.com/reviews/namely-review/ |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
  This is a detailed review of Namely. The review lists cons as "Not suited for small businesses" and "Non-transparent pricing".
4. {{cite news |last=Andre |first=Louie |date=2021-02-13 |title=Namely Review |url=https://reviews.financesonline.com/p/namely/ |website=FinancesOnline |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20210228083930/https://reviews.financesonline.com/p/namely/ |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
  The review notes, "Namely is a very straightforward human resources management platform that is built to do more than just simplify companies do HR. It is an end-to-end HR, payroll, and benefits solution that easily fits well into any company culture."
Fundraising
1. {{cite news |last=Conrad |first=Alex |date=2017-01-05 |title=Growing Between Zenefits And Workday, Namely Raises $50 Million And 'Sees A Path To IPO' |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2017/01/05/new-york-startup-namely-raises-50-million-as-ceo-matt-straz-sees-a-path-to-ipo/ |magazine=Forbes |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/2021.02.28-084533/https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2017/01/05/new-york-startup-namely-raises-50-million-as-ceo-matt-straz-sees-a-path-to-ipo/?sh=16e0a452630e |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
2. {{cite news |last=Konrad |first=Alex |date=2015-03-05 |title=How Workday HR Challenger Namely Doubled Its Valuation In Just Three Months |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2015/03/05/how-namely-doubled-its-valuation-in-three-months/ |magazine=Forbes |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/2021.02.28-084551/https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2015/03/05/how-namely-doubled-its-valuation-in-three-months/ |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
3. {{cite news |last=Griffith |first=Erin |date=2014-11-04 |title=The HR software battle heats up: Namely raises $12 million |url=https://fortune.com/2014/11/04/namely-hr-software/ |newspaper=Fortune |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/2021.02.28-084815/https://fortune.com/2014/11/04/namely-hr-software/ |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
4. {{cite news |last=Clancy |first=Heather |date=2016-02-23 |title=HR Software Startup Namely Gets $30 Million Infusion |url=https://fortune.com/2016/02/23/hr-software-namely-30-million/ |newspaper=Fortune |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/2021.02.28-084825/https://fortune.com/2016/02/23/hr-software-namely-30-million/ |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
5. {{cite news |last=Griffith |first=Erin |date=2014-06-18 |title=HR services startup Namely raises $4.7 million to take on Paychex and ADP |url=https://fortune.com/2014/06/18/namely-human-resources-matt-straz/ |newspaper=Fortune |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/2021.02.28-084843/https://fortune.com/2014/06/18/namely-human-resources-matt-straz/ |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
6. {{cite news |last=Gage |first=Deborah |date=2015-03-06 |title=Namely Adds $11M to Series B for Cloud-Based HR Suite |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/DJFVW00120150306eb36r7t68 |newspaper=The Wall Street Journal |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/2021.02.28-085423/https://www.wsj.com/articles/DJFVW00120150306eb36r7t68 |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
7. {{cite news |last=Zakrzewski |first=Cat |date=2017-01-05 |title=Human Resources Startup Namely Raises $50 Million |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/human-resources-startup-namely-raises-50-million-1483619406 |newspaper=The Wall Street Journal |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/2021.02.28-085401/https://www.wsj.com/articles/human-resources-startup-namely-raises-50-million-1483619406 |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
8. {{cite news |last=Hesseldahl |first=Arik |date=2015-06-18 |title=Namely, Human Resources in the Cloud, Raises $45 Million in Round Led by Sequoia |url=https://www.vox.com/2015/6/18/11563684/namely-human-resources-in-the-cloud-raises-45-million-in-round-led-by |website=Vox |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20210228091110/https://www.vox.com/2015/6/18/11563684/namely-human-resources-in-the-cloud-raises-45-million-in-round-led-by |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
9. {{cite news |last=Lunden |first=Ingrid |date=2017-01-05 |title=After rejecting Google, Namely raises $50M to take on the biggies in HR |url=https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/05/namely-raises-50m-to-take-on-the-biggies-in-hr/ |publisher=TechCrunch |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20210228085924/https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/05/namely-raises-50m-to-take-on-the-biggies-in-hr/ |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
10. {{cite news |last=Loizos |first=Connie |date=2018-08-02 |title=Exclusive: HR startup Namely, once a high flier, gets a new CEO and $60 million in new funding to soar again |url=https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/02/exclusive-hr-startup-namely-once-a-high-flier-gets-a-new-ceo-and-60-million-in-new-funding-to-soar-again/ |publisher=TechCrunch |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20210228090020/https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/02/exclusive-hr-startup-namely-once-a-high-flier-gets-a-new-ceo-and-60-million-in-new-funding-to-soar-again/ |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
Firing of CEO
1. {{cite news |last=Chapman |first=Lizette |date=2018-05-15 |title=Another HR Startup Ousts Its CEO Over Misconduct Claims |url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-15/namely-ousts-ceo-saying-his-actions-violated-startup-s-values |agency=Bloomberg News |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/2021.02.28-090306/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-15/namely-ousts-ceo-saying-his-actions-violated-startup-s-values |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
2. {{cite news |last=Konrad |first=Alex |date=2018-05-15 |title=New York HR Startup Namely Fires CEO Matt Straz Amid Investigation |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2018/05/15/namely-fires-ceo/ |magazine=Forbes |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/2021.02.28-090452/https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2018/05/15/namely-fires-ceo/?sh=7c624a7911de |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
3. {{cite news |last1=Hesseldahl |first1=Arik |last2=Bergen |first2=Mark |date=2016-03-18 |title=Google Is Shopping for Cloud Companies. On the List: Namely and Shopify. |url=https://www.vox.com/2016/3/18/11587054/google-is-shopping-for-cloud-companies-on-the-list-namely-and-shopify |website=Vox |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20210228090623/https://www.vox.com/2016/3/18/11587054/google-is-shopping-for-cloud-companies-on-the-list-namely-and-shopify |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
Layoffs
1. {{cite news |last=Loizos |first=Connie |date=2020-05-01 |title=Namely, a former high flier, slashes staff as demand for its HR software dries up in the pandemic |url=https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/01/namely-a-former-high-flier-slashes-staff-as-demand-for-its-hr-software-dries-up-in-the-pandemic/ |publisher=TechCrunch |accessdate=2021-02-28 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20210228085531/https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/01/namely-a-former-high-flier-slashes-staff-as-demand-for-its-hr-software-dries-up-in-the-pandemic/ |archivedate=2021-02-28 }}
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Namely to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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