Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neville Longbottom (Fictional Character)

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article's content already at Dumbledore's Army#Neville Longbottom ‑‑V.S.(C)(T) 08:46, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

• Delete. Excessive unsourced crufty detail on a fairly minor character. We already have a redirect at Neville Longbottom so there is absolutely no need for this to be kept as a redirect. --Michig (talk) 10:44, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
• Delete uneccessary fork of Dumbledore's Army#Neville Longbottom. Polyamorph (talk) 11:32, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
• not all the content is in dumbledore's army article, you only have a brief of his character, I think he deserves to have his own article since he played a major role Moeelmekkawy (talk) 23:01, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
• Redirect to Dumbledore's Army#Neville Longbottom. Carl Tristan Orense (talk) 06:41, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
• Comment, sorry, "fairly minor character"? more like a crucial one, standing up to his friends in the philosopher's stone he won the house cup for gryffindor, he is one of the few people who remains loyal to harry throughout the stories, is a key member of "dumbledore's army", and he summons the sword of gryffindor and kills nagini, also if circumstances were slightly different, he rather then potter, may have been the "chosen one". but anyway without some reliable sources discussing the character this should not be a standalone article. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:34, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
• Delete per previous editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:300:C930:ECAC:B47B:CA09:5F0F (talk) 21:33, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:NOTPLOT and there's nothing of value that isn't already included on Dumbledore's Army. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 22:01, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

::These are all reasons why he should have his own article, he was a really important character in the Movie/book. he could have been the hero of the story, in an alternative time line he is the hero. I honestly think that he is very important and thats why he should have his own page. In honor of Neville Longbottom Moeelmekkawy (talk) 01:07, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

• I made this article so people that don't know anything about Neville can understand everything about him not just a brief of what his importance of his role in the Movie/book. the way his section in dumbledore's army only people that know of harry potter will understand what is seeing said Moeelmekkawy (talk) 01:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
• Delete: {{U|Moeelmekkawy}}, to get an article on Wikipedia, a topic must meet our requirements for "Notability". The article you've made doesn't contain any secondary sources which are specifically about Neville (note that Wikia is not reliable as anyone can edit it). The other problem is that Wikipedia articles cannot only be plot summaries; an article on Neville would need to discuss the character's real-world impact—and again, this would need to be sourced to reliable, independent, secondary sources. — Bilorv_(c)(talk) 01:44, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

• Delete- not independently notable, so should not have a stand-alone article. The subject is already covered properly at Dumbledore's Army#Neville Longbottom, so there's nothing for a merge to accomplish, and the title is an implausible redirect. Reyk _YO! 11:09, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
• Keep at least in spirit; in practice a delete + spin-off of the existing material at Dumbledore's Army#Neville Longbottom to Neville Longbottom may be more appropriate. The old article was merged in 2009. [https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/neville-longbottoms-6-bravest-gryffindor-moments-in-harry-potter] and [https://www.tor.com/2013/11/19/neville-longbottom-is-the-most-important-person-in-harry-potter/] are some non-fansite coverage, and 281 results in Google scholar from 2014-2018 (many are undergraduate theses, but that's still far more than Hannah Abbott, Padma Patil, or Vincent Crabbe). power~enwiki (π, ν) 17:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
• Keep I honestly think that a lot of people will benefit for this, if my grandma was to read this she would understand everything about Neville Longbottom Moeelmekkawy (talk) 21:17, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

::As I pointed out above, {{U|Moeelmekkawy}}, this isn't relevant to the way Wikipedia works. We have notability criteria to define what is suitable for an encyclopedia; other websites such as Wikia are more suited to fandom content like this. — Bilorv_(c)(talk) 00:04, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

• Keep I believe that this article contains much more context that is very helpful for those who might not know who Neville Longbottom is. Respectively I believe that taking down this article would only do harm for their is no other vase knowledge about him that you could find on the wikipedia most are just snippets of his traits when here it is a almost biography like of his importance in the novel and how key his character was in Harry Potter. While the other articles just seem to glance over him.Omaredits (talk) 21:27, 21 December 2018 (UTC) — Omaredits (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
• Comment This, IMO, should not stay as an article on its own, but still much of the content should be moved to other articles. Redirecting to Dumbledore's Army#Neville Longbottom or any other similar place could be viable. Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:36, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:*The title is an implausible redirect (and we already have Neville Longbottom as a redirect). — Bilorv_(c)(talk) 19:38, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

::We could move any valuable content to Dumbledore's Army#Neville Longbottom and delete the rest. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:07, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

• Comment that not my point creating the article, one of the reasons is that Neville played an important role in Harry Potter series and he deserves to have his own article. if you think he didn't play a major role in Harry Potter please explain. Moeelmekkawy (talk) 20:27, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:*Deleting this article has nothing to do with how big his role in the series was; it's because there's little to nothing beyond plot details here that can be used. See the WP:NOTPLOT section of WP:What Wikipedia is not for more. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 20:44, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:*Moeelmekkawy, nobody is disputing the fact that Neville is an important character of the Harry Potter series, but that in itself is not enough to have this article. What would happen if we created an article for every important character of movies, books and so on? Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:34, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

• Comment: The WP:NAF essay informs us that {{tq|there is currently no clear consensus as to how notability affects fictional topics}}. We have to turn to the WP:FICTION essay, which suggests we consider that {{tq|individually non-notable elements of a fictional work (such as characters and episodes) may be grouped into an appropriate list article}}. (Emphasis in the original.) In this, we're advised to take into account WP:GNG and WP:NOT (and, of course, MOS:WAF, for the technical stuff). The crux here are the general-notability guidelines; the subject deserves an article of its own if and only if it passes the WP:GNG hurdle. -The Gnome (talk) 11:12, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

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