Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nikka Zaildar (film series)

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Per precedent, we do not generally have film series articles when there are less than three films in a series. There clearly isn't enough content to make an exception in this case. --woodensuperman 13:10, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. —AE (talk • contributions) 13:36, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. —AE (talk • contributions) 13:36, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

• Comment, has Nikka Zaildar 3 started principal filming? If so, that criterion has been met. SpinningSpark 19:15, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

• To answer my own question; according to [https://www.daahfilms.com/nikka-zaildar-3-going-on-floors-soon/ this], filming is due to start Jan-Feb 2019. SpinningSpark 07:32, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

::So that's a "no" then. :) --woodensuperman 15:36, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

• Keep already scheduled to start working on third film. So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 22:38, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

::"Scheduled to start working on" does not meet notability guideline WP:NFF. No reason to make an exception here. There is no benefit of having this article when all the information is already in the two film articles. --woodensuperman 15:36, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

:::I think WP:COMMONSENSE applies here (a policy, which trumps your alleged, but unlinked, consensus). It looks very likely that filming will begin in the new year, at which point it will meet the criterion. In any case WP:NFF says nothing about series. It is about whether a film should have a standalone page. This is not a standalone page for Nikka Zaildar 3 so NFF does not apply. On the other hand, the announcement of the third film is reported in numerous sources and is easily WP:V. We can therefore have it covered in Wikipedia, just not on its own page and a page on the series is a good compromise. SpinningSpark 15:53, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

::::Small nitpick - WP:COMMONSENSE is an essay, not a policy. So pretty much worthless. --Gonnym (talk) 16:39, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

:::::No it isn't. It's an explanatory supplement to IAR per WP:SUPPLEMENTAL. SpinningSpark 17:19, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

::::::Explanatory supplement is still not a policy and still is as worthless as an essay. From WP:COMMONSENSE: {{tq|This page is not one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community.}} and from WP:SUPPLEMENTAL: {{tq|Informative and instructional pages are typically edited by the community; while not policies or guidelines themselves [...] In comparison to policies and guidelines, information pages, like essay pages, have a limited status, as they have not been thoroughly vetted by the community.}} - useful to understand the links you throw around. --Gonnym (talk) 20:06, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

::::The announcement of the third film and the connection between the two existing films can be included in a "sequel" or "sequels" section. There is no benefit to this article - it is useless and unnecessary and provides no additional "overview" information. Even something like House (1986 film), which has three sequels, does not have a series article. --woodensuperman 09:24, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

• Keep per my comment above. SpinningSpark 15:53, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
• Delete per {{u|Woodensuperman}}'s point re: House. See also Before Sunrise and its sequels. Just because we {{em|can}} have an article doesn't mean the topic deserves one or must have one, especially if there's insufficient material to warrant said article. For examples outside film, see Mr. Mercedes and its sequels in Stephen King's "Bill Hodges" trilogy. —Joeyconnick (talk) 02:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
• Move to Draft space It would be very difficult to build this article into a meaningful series overview while it currently comprises just two films. If you look at something like Rocky (film series) you can see that once you get past the plot summaries it mainly comprises of tables and charts providing a comparative overview of different aspects of the series. On Wikipedia film series articles generally cover series of at least three films. If there is just one film and a sequel the convention is to just add a "sequel" section to the article about the first film and cove common aspects there i.e. you don't need tables and a whole new article to compare just two films. If a third film is added to the series then a film series article may be justified, but if it hasn't actually started filming yet then the assumption of a third film as a foregone conclusion would violate WP:CRYSTAL. Betty Logan (talk) 11:35, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. My crystal ball insists there'll be a 3rd series but I turn it off with a snap. -The Gnome (talk) 18:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. There really isn't anything worth saving in this article, the first two films have a brief synopsis and there's nothing about the third except it's being made. Ifnord (talk) 21:51, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

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