Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Good (Plan B song)

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Who Needs Actions When You Got Words. Both No Good (Plan B song) and Charmaine (rap song) should be merged, and the redirects should stay as they are, as they may be useful search terms. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 01:41, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

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This article does not show why the song is notable, as it did not appear on any charts. The two major points of this article seem to be the different release formats and the Kelly Charles/The Prodigy sample. The fact that it was released alone is not enough for it to be notable. I think a more suitable way of publishing this information would be a detailed mention in the "You're No Good for Me" article instead. Ellm6 (talk) 12:17, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages because "Charmaine" is also not notable and the article is factually inaccurate as it was never released as a single:

:{{la|Charmaine (rap song)}}

And the following re-directs because most of the singles from Plan B's first album Who Needs Actions When You Got Words did not chart and were not very notable, therefore there will never be any good articles about these subjects, so instead of being re-directs they should be deleted permanently

:{{la|Dead and Buried (song)}}

:{{la|Dead and Buried (single)}}

:{{la|Kidz / Dead and Buried}}

:{{la|Missing Links (song)}}

:{{la|No More Eatin'}}

:{{la|Sick 2 Def}}

:{{la|Sick 2 Def (song)}}

:{{la|Sick 2 Def / No Good}}

Merge No Good (Plan B song), to Who Needs Actions When You Got Words, the album from which it comes (I don't think it's quite notable and the album article already discusses various songs). Keep the redirects: a redirect doesn't have to be notable, it just has to be a plausible search term, which some of these are. You don't seem to understand the purpose of redirects: they're not placeholders for future articles (read Wikipedia:Redirect), and anyway redirects proposed for deletion should be discussed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:09, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:26, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

~~Delete~~Comment - [we should delete] "No Good" as it is not notable OR Merge with "You're No Good for Me", the song which this covers. Delete "Charmaine" as this also is not notable. Delete re-directs because all of Plan B's singles from his first album (except for "Mama (Loves a Crackhead)") did not chart, which means they do not meet notablity criteria. They have been previously deleted however I don't see why there are so many pointless re-directs, especially as it is unlikely that any of these will ever develop into good articles. - Ellm6 (talk) 21:18, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

:*While this is a consensus, not a vote, please only give your stated opinion once. Given you nominated the articles for deletion is it assumed you remain in favour of deletion unless you withdraw your nomination. There is no need for you to also vote "Delete". Please also note the comment from • Gene93k above - redirects are designed to allow visitors to be directed to relevant articles. They are not place-holders for future articles or an indication of articles that will one day be created. Whether or not they will one day be good articles has no bearing on whether they are useful redirects. Stalwart111 (talk) 04:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 14:59, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dori ☾Talk ☯ Contribs☽ 02:38, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Whilst I understand that this is not a vote, I think that there has been enough time for a discussion about these articles and now we need to reach a consensus quickly over what to do. I think we should merge "No Good" with "You're No Good for Me"; delete "Charmaine" altogether; I'm not too bothered if the re-directs remain or not I just think they are a bit pointless. Especially as there are more than one re-directs for the same subject (e.g. "Dead and Buried (song)" and "Dead and Buried (single)") - Ellm6 (talk) 01:01, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

:::No worries. As a general rule they stay open for 7 days. But if they haven't had many comments then they are re-listed (as this one was, twice) for further comment. For the sake of getting it moving I will add a proper comment also. Stalwart111 (talk) 01:17, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Merge - as suggested above. Maybe add some more details to Who Needs Actions When You Got Words for clarity. Cheers, Stalwart111 (talk) 01:17, 14 September 2012 (UTC).
Keep - the track was officially released as a single, on several different official formats (such as 7" and 12" plus DVD single). Just because it didn't chart doesn't make it unworthy - a singles discography is a singles discography. We don't just pick and choose the singles we keep, as it is a complete record. IWannaABillionaire111 (talk) 18:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC).

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.