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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olean High School shooting

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn, no "delete" !votes (non-admin closure) Pgallert (talk) 08:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

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Not-notable shooting, This is still just a local crime story -- there is nothing of encyclopedic value here. Night of the Big Wind talk 14:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep. Nominator gave no policy based reason for deletion. The primary notability criteria is the existence of significant coverage in reliable sources, which this are present in this article. Marokwitz (talk) 14:09, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Not every shooting is notable. Night of the Big Wind talk 14:20, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
  • I never said every shooting is notable. You should take the time to read the notability policies. Marokwitz (talk) 14:22, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep - WP:CRIME requires a certain threshold of discussion by secondary sources. The sources already in the article seem sufficient to satisfy that guideline. --Noleander (talk) 15:38, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep - The question I always consider for events is does it have lasting impact? I believe the answer is yes. [http://books.google.com/books?id=UEVWCHCuckMC&lpg=PA76&pg=PA76#v=onepage&q=%22olean%20high%20school%22&f=false 2008 book School Shootings] [http://books.google.com/books?ei=1apfTqulFKiosQLWnN0T&ct=result&id=3ySfAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Olean+High+School%22 2006 book Shooting Game] [http://books.google.com/books?ei=1apfTqulFKiosQLWnN0T&ct=result&id=Sfu5XVS6VZIC&dq=%22Olean+High+School%22+shooting&q=%22Olean+High+School%22#search_anchor 1981 book They Shoot to Kill] [http://books.google.com/books?id=YaLo1jgAorMC&pg=PA342&dq=%22Olean+High+School%22+shooting&hl=en&ei=1apfTqulFKiosQLWnN0T&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22Olean%20High%20School%22%20shooting&f=false 2004 book The psychology and law of workplace violence: a handbook for mental health] and a [http://www.google.com/search?q=Olean+High+School+shooting&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Rrp&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&prmdo=1&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=%22Olean+High+School%22+shooting&pbx=1&oq=%22Olean+High+School%22+shooting&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=215712l216090l1l216290l2l2l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&prmdo=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.&fp=32d3f53652110607&biw=1920&bih=896 2010 book also comes up, but without any preview]. --Odie5533 (talk) 16:00, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

:Also, an off-broadway play called Sniper was performed in 2005 based on these events. [http://books.google.com/books?id=UEVWCHCuckMC&lpg=PA76&pg=PA76#v=onepage&q=%22olean%20high%20school%22&f=false]. --Odie5533 (talk) 16:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:17, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:18, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep Looks wp:notable
  • Keep Definitely notable, as it is relatively often cited as the first American high school shooting committed by a student, see e.g. [http://books.google.de/books?id=ZryRaMNsqoMC&pg=PA23&dq=olean here] or [http://books.google.de/books?id=KUCi1F_KopkC&pg=PA13&dq=olean here]. (Lord Gøn (talk) 19:24, 1 September 2011 (UTC))

Aha, I did not find the fact that is was identified as the first school shooting. That could be added to the article. For now, I am convinced about its notability and suggest closure as speedy keep. Night of the Big Wind talk 19:55, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep - first high school shooting in america by a student. notable.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:34, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep. The nomination has been withdrawn and there are no other recommendations for delete. The event has received significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Location (talk) 01:19, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep. Article is extensively sourced. A bunch of other good articles were nominated for deletion and all will result in the same SNOW KEEP. If this immature disruption continues I will go to ANI. That's a promise.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:00, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.