Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Operation Golden Bird

The result was KEEP. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) _{- Signed by} NeverTry4Me ^Talk 23:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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NPOV and article created by a confirmed sock. _{- Signed by} NeverTry4Me ^Talk 07:38, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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| source = https://www.rediff.com/news/column/china-has-lost-the-jade-kingdom-india-must-not/20120527.htm

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| source = https://www.thequint.com/news/india/before-myanmar-there-were-these-five-great-indian-military-ops#.VXphZxxenxM.twitter

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| source = https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/india-seeks-release-of-suu-kyi/article1923867.ece

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| source = Troubled Periphery The Crisis of India's North East

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| source = http://www.frontline.in/static/html/fl2101/stories/20040116005101500.htm

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| source = https://www.dailyo.in/politics/manipur-attack-nscn-k-meitei-northeast-india-act-east-myanmar-isi-ulfa-afspa/story/1/4196.html

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| source = https://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-02-06/news/47089653_1_weapons-rebels-operation-golden-bird

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• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military, Myanmar, and India. Shellwood (talk) 07:58, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
• Keep Operation Golden Bird is a thing, and a notable thing at that. Sock's not good but G5 doesn't apply unless the page was created prior to the sock being blocked. NPOV can be handled through editing, not sure why we'd need to delete a valid page about a demonstrable and notable historical event? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
• :Comment: Sock created articles are always a debacle. _{- Signed by} NeverTry4Me ^Talk 08:47, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
• :Moreover the article wasn't passed through AFC submission. _{- Signed by} NeverTry4Me ^Talk 08:48, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

• As per the article, this is the

Then improve the article. AfD is not for improving articles. Is Operation Golden Bird a thing? It is. Is it a notable thing? It is.

[https://idsa.in/jds/jds_10_3_2016_operation-golden-bird Journal of Defence Studies]

[https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-33074776 BBC]

[https://books.google.ae/books?id=I0uxDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT115&dq=operation+golden+bird&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiB2q-biZv4AhXaSvEDHd12AJoQ6AF6BAgEEAI#v=onepage&q=operation%20golden%20bird&f=false Making of India's Northeast: Geopolitics of Borderland and Transnational Interactions]

[https://books.google.ae/books?id=CfLuDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA34&dq=operation+golden+bird&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-%20cKCipv4AhWSR%20EDHb-jBnY4ChDoAXoECAQQAg JAIR Journal of International Relations: Vol. 2, Issue 1, January-June 2015]

[https://books.google.ae/books?id=FQsErroCfzsC&pg=PA141&dq=operation+golden+bird&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-_cKCipv4AhWSR_EDHb-jBnY4ChDoAXoECAgQAg#v=onepage&q=operation%20golden%20bird&f=false Myanmar/Burma: Inside Challenges, Outside Interests]

There are a ton of sources out there. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:06, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

:@Alexandermcnabb Take the burden of improving yourself. _{- Signed by} NeverTry4Me ^Talk 10:17, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

:@Alexandermcnabb BBC also just passed a Mention only. _{- Signed by} NeverTry4Me ^Talk 11:28, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

• Keep, even a cursory Google search shows an enormous number of hits for the subject, which is clearly notable. Further, it is not the job of respondents to an AfD to improve the article. It's nice if they do, it's a good outcome, but we're all volunteers, and pressurising volunteers into rushing under threat of deadlines to delete is fundamentally wrong. We don't have a "You do the work or I delete" policy. Instruction C1 in Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#Contributing_to_AfD_discussions is quite clear: "If the article can be fixed through normal editing, then it is not a candidate for AfD". Elemimele (talk) 12:15, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
• Keep Books and academic papers examining the context, execution and consequences of the operation are available from the "Find sources" links above. Hemantha (talk) 18:15, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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