Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PASCAL-P

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Pascal-P will remain as a redirect to UCSD Pascal. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 10:46, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

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No sources cited or other evidence that this is a notable programming language. Wikipedia is not a directory of programming languages. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:40, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Keep This appears to be an historically significant language that is actually still in use nearly 40 years after it originated. Cullen328 (talk) 05:11, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Comment - If it is part of UCSD Pascal, then it should be kept or merged into the appropriate USCD Pascal-related article. Rilak (talk) 07:23, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:@both of the above: The article isn't even verified by a single source, so at present we don't even know if it is true (and apparently neither of you are actually sure it is either) so to make some sort of claim that it is automatically notable based on criteria that you appear to have just made up on the spot does not strike me as a reasonable position. As always, I'd be happy to be proven wrong if you can come up with some good sources to support these claims. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Redirect to ~~Pascal (programming language)~~ UCSD Pascal. We have sufficient info on Google searches and the like to confirm it exists and is a plausible redirect. As Beeblebrox points out, we do not have any reliable sourcing on which to build any sort of article. Until and unless we do, I think it should just be a redirect. Ray^Talk 18:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. -- Ray^Talk 18:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

delete and redirect to UCSD Pascal (and not a generic Pascal article). Pascal-P is important, and only important, as the early incarnations of the UCSD p-system Pascal compiler, i.e. UCSD Pascal.

: There's an argument to be made for keeping it as a separate article, because it was an early version of Pascal-P that gave rise to UCSD and Pascal-P did survive and was developed indepedently after that (P4?). However that post-fork existence would need to have its notability demonstrated independently, something which this article clearly fails to do. I'd have no objection to its future recreation if someone could achieve that, but as it stands it would be fine as just a redirect.

: In fact, just delete the thing. The name is Pascal-P, not PASCAL-P. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:50, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

::huh, wasn't aware of that page. Since this exists as a redirect under it's proper capitalization, I think we can safely just delete this or redirect it to the same place without really losing anything of value to the project. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:55, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:08, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Merge into UCSD Pascal as the progenitor of UCSD Pascal. I suppose a continuing history of PASCAL-P might also be included in that article. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 06:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.