Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palaye Royale

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A band whose references are all social media . YouTube or track listings. Nothing notable . Fails WP:GNG  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   21:25, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

:I disagree, i realize that most links are to social media, but that is because i believe them to be notable. the social media comes directly from the band, which makes all of it true.SoldierOfTheRoyalCouncil (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:34, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

:I have just realized my error, upon looking up notability, and you are right. I will try to find more notable sources.SoldierOfTheRoyalCouncil (talk) 21:39, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

:: in process of updating sources, how do they look now? Velella thank you for all your help.SoldierOfTheRoyalCouncil (talk) 21:52, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

• Weak keep Better sources seem to be out there based on a quick skim of Google, and the MTV award confers notability. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:55, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

:I'm not sure i understand what you mean about MTV, could you please clarify? White Arabian FillySoldierOfTheRoyalCouncil (talk) 21:58, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

::On Wikipedia, people/groups/businesses become notable primarily because they get covered in newspapers, magazines, news sites, etc. If a person wins an award like a Grammy, they'll get written about, and chances are they should have an article. Therefore, the more awards or competitions a group like this wins, the more likely they are to deserve an article. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 22:06, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

: so [User:White Arabian Filly|White Arabian Filly]] what you're saying then is that you agree that the band is notable enough to warrant an article, but i need stronger citations? SoldierOfTheRoyalCouncil (talk) 22:11, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

::Yes, that's it. I would support moving it to draft space to give you more time to work on it. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 14:59, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

• delete - no significant coverage in serious independent musical sources.Staszek Lem (talk) 22:29, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
• Support move to Draftspace because I believe, with some work, this article could meet AfC standards. It should also be noted that the user who created the article is a new user and likely knows little about Wikipedia's policies. We don't want to discourage them from editing in the future, per WP:BITE. -- Gestrid (talk) 22:35, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
• Delete This is an overtly promotional article about a non-notable band that contains utterly non-neutral content like "The brothers wanted to create a band that really put on a show, one that brought together the theatrics of Vegas, and the gritty rock and roll of times gone by" which is referenced to the band's own website. There are many other such passages. The band's claim to notability seems to be winning some MTV March contest, and that is referenced to MTV itself, which has an interest in promoting its own contests. No truly independent source paid any attention to this. This is an advertisement, pure and simple, and belongs on some blog somewhere, not on Wikipedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:39, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
• Delete. No acceptable evidence of notability. Maproom (talk) 06:58, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
• Userfy or Draftify to allow author time to research notability and to allow band time to become notable. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:15, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
• Userfy since the creator is active and hopefully willing to work on this further. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:18, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 17:36, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

• Draftify for AfC. Article subject has potential notability but needs work. This will allow the author to get help and organize the article for Wikipedia standards, and than submit to AfC, a wonderful project. ✉cookiemonster✉ ^𝚨755𝛀 18:15, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
• Delete altogether and then Draft only if actually needed, as I honestly would not accept this even if it were listed for review....because nothing here is actually convincing thus Deletion is best if there's still nothing actually convincing for even minimal notability yet. SwisterTwister talk 04:33, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
• Delete - the idea that the article should be moved to user or draft space "to allow band time to become notable" would open the floodgates to every wanabee and Up and coming next big thing. Their time may come, but it is currently Too soon - Arjayay (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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