Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paradise Run

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No references, hasn't even started yet. Fails WP:GNG. Randykitty (talk) 15:04, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. clpo13_(talk) 17:44, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. clpo13_(talk) 17:44, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

• Delete - Look like a case of WP:TOOSOON. Meatsgains (talk) 21:54, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
• Comment: Only sourcing I can find for this is from either Tween mags, or from NICK itself. I can't even confirm the Feb. 1 premiere date (sources only mention "February 2016"). All that said, I'm not sure it makes sense to delete the article roughly two weeks before it's going to premiere on TV... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:26, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
• Keep – and now there's [http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2016/01/21/nickelodeon-premieres-new-competition-series-paradise-run-set-in-hawaii-and-hosted-by-daniella-monet-monday-feb-1-at-7-pm-et-pt-809415/20160121nickelodeon01/ this from The Futon Critic]. At the least, it's actually "TOOSOON" to delete – let's revisit this a few months after the show premieres to see if it then passes WP:GNG. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:29, 21 January 2016 (UTC) {{br}}Addendum: The ref shows that this series now clears WP:TVSHOW. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 01:54, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

:*Comment That's not the way this works. We don't create articles and then wait and see a few months whether they then will pass GNG. We evaluate whether an article passes GNG now. Which it obviously doesn't (even with that brief reference from the Futon Critic) and since my crystal ball is cracked, I really have no idea whether this will change at some point in the future. Wouldn't be the first show to fizzle after one or two episodes and then being cancelled without ever generating any coverage. --Randykitty (talk) 20:46, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

::* You're entitled to that view. I'm letting WP:TVSHOW guide me on this – it now has an official premiere date on NICK, which is probably enough to keep the article (see: Figure It Out for an article about a similar NICK gameshow). So I'll strike the part of my vote that offends. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 01:54, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

:::*An essay, not a guideline. --Randykitty (talk) 09:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

:: {{outdent|2}} I have now cleaned up the article, added details, and added the article's first sourcing, including [http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/marilyn-manson-salem-josh-donaldson-vikings-1201685030/ this mention in Variety]. And, again, it is likely that more independent coverage of this series will happen closer to the time that the series premieres – I would suggest relisting this one tomorrow (Jan. 23), so we can see where we are around Jan. 30–Feb. 1 (the series' premiere date). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:53, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

: So far, not much to add – there's definitely enough now to clear WP:TVSHOW pretty clearly (I now have sourcing for the first 10 episodes' titles and airing dates). But, so far, no more pre-premiere articles on this one have turned up... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 08:13, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

: OK, I think I've done all I can with this one. I've done several searches before and since the premiere, and the only other sources out there are teen/tween websites and such. It clearly passes WP:TVSHOW. Whether it passes WP:GNG? The closer will have to decide that one for themselves... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:21, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

• Keep as the show has now aired since this AfD nomination and the article is now sourced. SwisterTwister talk 03:08, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

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