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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pascual Izquierdo Egea

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz talk 01:23, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

=[[Pascual Izquierdo Egea]]=

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:{{la|Pascual Izquierdo Egea}} ([{{fullurl:Pascual Izquierdo Egea|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pascual Izquierdo Egea}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

I was initially going to suggest that this article simply be transwikied to the Spanish Wikipedia, but since [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascual_Izquierdo_Egea a Spanish version of the article already exists], this should be deleted instead. Not only is most of it in Spanish, but all the sources come from the subject's own book. THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 05:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment Each language's Wikipedia is its own autonomous project with its own policies for among other things inclusion in the encyclopedia, but does the fact that the Spanish Wikipedia has an article on this subject (when they'd be the first, logically, to publish one) say something of his notability? If no reliable sources independent of the subject exist, then fine (I notice they don't even on the es.wikipedia article), but maybe they just haven't looked any harder than anyone here has. Don't fall asleep zzzzzz 05:44, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. —John Z (talk) 07:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment I just restored the AfD tag which had been removed. I don't know much about this field, so I have not searched for possible sources for notability. The article is pretty bad, though, and if kept needs major re-writing and editing to remove peacock terms and such. --Crusio (talk) 08:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep and rewrite. Meets WP:PROF, he is the editor of two academic journals [http://www.laiesken.net/protohistoria/pascual-izquierdo-egea.html Protohistoria] and [http://www.laiesken.net/historia/RIH-1-M.pdf Revista Iberoamericana de Historia]. Change to Delete, journals are not available in academic libraries. --J.Mundo (talk) 13:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete Looking at the bibliography in the esWP, this archeologist he has published a total of 9 articles and his doctoral thesis; no independent books. The two journals are very minor, with no copies in worldCat, or at LC or British Museum- It's only a major well-established journal where the editorship meets WP:PROF. Allowances do have to be made for it being a very specialized field not well represented in the US: Spanish protohistory, but I think someone with this sparse publication record and without evidence of an academic position fails WP:LPROF very conclusively and is not notable. DGG (talk) 01:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

::The journal "Revista Iberoamericana" is listed in the Autonomous University of Madrid's library, [http://www.uam.es/departamentos/filoyletras/hmoderna/revistas.htm 1] and Biblioteca Virtual Miguel de Cervantes, [http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/seccion/historia/psegundonivel.jsp?conten=enlaces 2]. --J.Mundo (talk) 01:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Delete. I could not find a single entry for either of the journals in WorldCat. Thus, like DGG, I do not think he meets WP:PROF criterion #8 (editor-in-chief of established journal). Does not seem to pass other notability requirements under WP:PROF or WP:BIO.--Eric Yurken (talk) 01:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep. This distinguished researcher is editor-in-chief and publisher of those publications, but the more important thing is that his methodology let us to reconstruct, as a solid framework, the economic history of all the ancient peoples. All the readers of Wikipedia have right to know this. Thanks. (Blasdelezo) 03:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

:*Note. This user has made few or no other edits outside of this topic.--Eric Yurken (talk) 14:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Delete As per the detailed analysis of DGG and Eric Yurken's additional data. Fails WP:PROF by a long way. --Crusio (talk) 08:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

*Keep. Dear Crusio, have you read my post? Your opinion is absolutely subjective. I am also professor and researcher and cannot understand your interest about this matter because you are not an historian or an archaeologist. I repeat: this individual has contributed much to science. That is indisputable, please evaluate this data. (Blasdelezo) 09:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC) (striking, voting twice --J.Mundo (talk) 13:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC))

:*Dear Blasdelezo, yes, I have read your post and no, my opinion is not purely subjective but based upon the decidedly objective criteria of WP:PROF. As shown conclusively by DGG and Eric Yurken, these criteria are not met. I am perfectly willing to believe that this person has made wonderful contributions to science. But for an encyclopedic article, we'll need a little bit more tangible evidence than some editors just saying so. --Crusio (talk) 13:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

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