Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patricia McKeon

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Spouse of an important U.S. Congressman, but the only reason she is possibly notable is as a candidate for state assembly, which isn't enough. Notability is not inherited (or obtained by marriage). NawlinWiki (talk) 17:30, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

  • Weak delete - her notability as a spouse goes beyond just being a spouse; coverage is on her being a spouse on his staff and drawing relatively large salary. Still, the most that gets is a couple paragraphs in Roll Call. Add that to her candidacy, and you get more than nothing, but less than enough, I think. --Nat Gertler (talk) 18:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Tom Morris (talk) 19:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:20, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

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  • Strong Don't Delete - her notability is beyond that of a candidate for state office. She is the wife of one of the 10 most powerful sitting congressman and is running for state office. This is unusual at least and flat out unprecedented at best. Also I have done a lot of research and have articles and sources for her and the controversies as a lobbyist and her and her husbands campaign improprieties to go along with the sources already referenced. they come from sources such as The Politico, The Hill, and other major news sources. I'm still not an experienced enough wiki'er to know hoo to present all the data. I guess I can gather it and post it here and then let the community decided(I'll work on that). Ultimately though I think she is prominent enough and the situation out of the ordinary enough to warrant an entry. SCVPolitik (talk) 21:59, 17 November 2011 (UTC) SCVPolitik (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

:Unusual and unprecedented does not grant notability; significant sources discussing the things that make her unusual and unprecedented would. If you have sources that talk significantly about her, rather than mention her as an aside or as an item on a list, present those. --Nat Gertler (talk) 22:28, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

  • Redirect/Merge to the article about Howard McKeon, her husband. She is not notable enough for an article of her own at this point; she is merely one of several candidates for the Republican nomination for state assembly, and Google News has barely noticed her. If she gets the nomination and wins election, she will then be notable by definition, and the article can be restored from the redirect. Meanwhile, the Howard McKeon article should have a mention of her current candidacy, as well as info about her role in his campaigns etc. as mentioned above. Currently his article contains none of that info, but it is relevant to him and should be there whether or not she retains her own article. SCVPolitik, feel free to go ahead and add info about her to his article, even while this discussion is pending. --MelanieN (talk) 15:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Adding her info to his Article seems like a good idea. I'll go ahead and add as much of her article as would make sense to his article page. SCVPolitik (talk) 20:38, 23 November 2011 (UTC)


:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:50, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


:*Redirect/Merge - for the reasons listed above. Keep it salvagable for a later date if needed. PhnomPencil talk contribs 19:45, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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