Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Oluikpe

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There is nothing notable about this man. Most of the source from the newspaper cited has nothing to do with him except ref 1. Naijaloaded and 9jaflaver has nothing to do with significant neither reliable as they were only just talking about his music and the rest source are just mere websites. And to the article creator “How did you come inform of the biography” knowing all this information without any source giving a clue of who the subject is? Gabriel (……?) 18:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Authors, Bands and musicians, Businesspeople, Arts, and Nigeria. Gabriel (……?) 18:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

• Comment : One more question to the article creator. Who is “Muradmomi12”, a user who posted a fake template on your talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cfaso2000#c-Muradmomi12-20240904080600-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Paul_Oluikpe Here] claiming to have accepted the article. Is that your second account?. Remember lying won’t save you. So you can just be honest and things be sort out properly per Wikipedia policy--Gabriel (……?) 18:39, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
• :I wish to state categorically that I have no affiliation with the subject whatsoever. Can you check my edit history and particularly, the articles I have written and contributed to here? They cut across different interests. I am mostly interested in seeing major subjects/articles from Africa feature on Wikipedia. I am not ashamed to have that interest, but apart from that, I have no conflicts of interest in writing about the subjects I choose. I am neither paid nor employed by any of the subjects I have written or contributed to.
• :About @Muradmomi12 , you need to check his edit and contribution history to know he has been warned severally about vandalism. I had no need for his approval or acceptance of my article. I am an Autoconfirmed user and have the user rights to move articles directly to mainspace. So I have no need for his/her help. If you check his history, you would notice he has been banned or blocked from wikipedia. If you compare my edit history and @Maradmomi12, our interests do not align. i would urge you rather to also check his history with yours and see if there are similarities.
• :On a final note, i sense that your nomination of this article for deletion was not in good faith. It appears this is vandalism and I hereby warn you to desist. Thank You. Cfaso2000 (talk) 20:01, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you for your opinion on my article. The notability of the subject is proven by many mainstream independent articles as follows:

:(1) A review in major Nigerian newspapers, of his books. Four major/independent sources reviewed his book, Swim or Sink: Policy dynamics in challenging environments. His biography was also cited by these newspapers (references 1, 4, 5, and 20).

:(2) His Novel, Dead on Arrival(2013) was also featured in 2013 by Linda Ikeji(ref 17)and Bella Naija (ref 18) and also referenced in ref 1, 4, 5 and 20.

:(3) He was recognized by the British Council in 2017 (ref 12, 13)

:(4) He won a major award here (ref 14)

:(5) He also won another major award here from Alliance for Financial Inclusion here (ref 11)

:(6) He is also a musician and has an extensive discography (ref 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27). i have only included these for brevity sake. I found so many other songs he has put out.

:(7) His financial inclusion work is also covered in major independent newspapers here (ref 7,8,9,10).

:I hope this helps you to situate and agree with his notability.

:Finally, please can you check the history of edits to give you an idea of where this article has evolved from?

:Thank you. Cfaso2000 (talk) 19:53, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

::{{tq|On a final note, i sense that your nomination of this article for deletion was not in good faith. It appears this is vandalism and I hereby warn you to desist. Thank You.}} This clearly now shows you definitely don't know what Wikipedia policy is all about neither the good faith or vandalism. You joined wikipedia 9 months ago with less than 200 edits but thats by the way. You stated “Muradmomi12” is into a different interest of editing from yours and has been vandalising but I am still surprise how he found your talk page and to post a fake approve article template of your article, since you both are of different interest, but thats by the way since you already stated you don't know such editor. When I saw that it actually looked like a deceive to the public that one of your article was accepted. So I thought it might be from your handwork to deceive the community but it's fine. Meanwhile, that doesn't still change the fact why I nominated this article. It still doesn't meet the general notability guideline. His works are not notable and this is the only thing I can found about his subject novel which still has nothing to do with him Dead on arrival. Gabriel (……?) 21:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

:::I urge you to do a check of my refutations to your nomination for deletion in points 1-7 above and go through piece by piece and make your conclusions. I address your points in this latest response as follows:

:::(a) The fact that I joined Wikipedia 9 months ago and have only 200 edits is not relevant to the issue here;

:::(b) I have no business with how @muradmomi12 found my talk page to post a fake "approve" article template. Wikipedia is a public place and anyone is entitled to roam the space and indulge in their interests, but that "indulgence" should be ethical, free of conflicts of interest, and not infringing on the rights or freedoms of other users to contribute to the stock of knowledge here.

:::(c) Why does it look like a deception to the public that my article was accepted? because I am just only 9 months with less than 200 edits or what? Please check my edit history and other articles and subjects I have written about. Paul Oluikpe is not the first or only article or subject I have written about.

:::(d) Your assertion "it still doesnt meet general notability guideline" has no proof, but merely an arbitrary/sweeping rationalization. Please can you be specific about the sources, and can you refute piece by piece no 1-7 points which i made above? Have you actually read the sources ? This can help.

:::Thank you Cfaso2000 (talk) 21:37, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

::::{{tq|(a) The fact that I joined Wikipedia 9 months ago and have only 200 edits is not relevant to the issue here;}} If you had stick with the Article wizard for creation policy, your article of 2023 Philip Ikeazor won't have been nominated for an AFD by Star Mississippi. Meanwhile, I still stand by my reason and will allow other editors do their research. Have a nice day and no further response from me to you. Gabriel (……?) 21:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

:::::Thank you for proving that your nomination of this article for deletion was in bad faith. I rest my case. Cfaso2000 (talk) 05:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: [https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/04/14/cbn-restates-commitment-to-promote-financial-inclusion/ Source 2] is his words at WSBI’s Scale2Save event, and likely, a press release. Source 3 is same as above and wouldn't tell us that he "works on financial inclusion". Tech finance, source 4, lacks byline and editorial standard, hence the post appears like a sponsored post. The awards are minor ad unrecognisable per WP:ANYBIO except the one from the British Council. But their count still doesn't make this article meet WP:GNG. Almost all the sources linked to Dead on Arrival, his book, are paid publication and some unreliable including Linda Ikeji's blog. Ofcourse, Nigerian world News doesn't perceive editorial policy and list works are by admin or individual. In light of WP: NMUSICIAN, the article's segment "musical work" were citations from unreliable sources per WP:NGRS. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 16:39, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
• :Thanks for your view. Here are my responses to your post.
• :(1) The phrase "likely a press release" stays in the realm of speculation, and not a certainty. We shouldn't make conclusions on that. The issue is, does it cover the subject significantly? and is it an independent source?
• :(2)Sources 2, 3, 7,8,9,10 all state categorically that he works in financial inclusion and at the central bank. The sources are Thisday, Independent, Daily Trust, Business Day, TechCabal-all sources identified in the Wikipedia list of reliable sources from Nigeria (Wikipedia:WikiProject Nigeria/Nigerian sources
• :(4) Sources 6, 11,12, and 13 reference the awards he won. These are credible sources (Loughborough University, British Council, The Alliance for Financial Inclusion and The Punch).
• :(5)Sources 1,4,5 and 20 covered extensively his book Swim or Sink: Policy Dynamics in Challenging Environments. They also ran a biography on him and also mention where he works. These sources are Nigerian Guardian, The Tribune and This Day all listed here Wikipedia:WikiProject Nigeria/Nigerian sources
• :(6) You said "Almost all the sources linked to Dead on Arrival, his book, are paid publication and some unreliable". This is inaccurate. Sources 1,4,5 and 20 mention the novel, Dead on Arrival plus Linda Ikeji's coverage and Bella Naija coverage and reviews.
• :I do believe the article should not be deleted.
• :Thank you Cfaso2000 (talk) 17:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
• ::@Cfaso2000, do not Wikipedia:BLUDGEON the AFD process or you may attract yourself a block for a short period of time. Allow other editors to express their concerns and not you, pointing to sources and policies to every likely "delete" decision. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:56, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. I thought at first that he would pass WP:NAUTHOR with reviews of his book ([https://tribuneonlineng.com/nigerian-author-publishes-a-policy-book/], [https://guardian.ng/art/paul-oluikpe-explores-policy-dynamics-in-new-book-swim-or-sink/], [https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/04/nigerian-author-identifies-seven-forces-that-determine-policy-success/]) in three sources rated generally reliable by WikiProject Nigeria, but in reading the sources, it seems two of them are based on one, or they are all based on an underlying WP:PRESSRELEASE. Look in particular at the final few paragraphs, which are in some cases nearly word-for-word identical. As a result, I do not believe these to be truly independent reviews and thus no pass of NAUTHOR. I also see no WP:SIGCOV to pass WP:GNG. As for the awards, they do not qualify under WP:ANYBIO. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:47, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

:@Gabriel601@Dclemens1971 and @SafariScribe I have overhauled the article and also provided some additional independent reference. Can you kindly check again and your feedback would be most appreciated. I will continue to search for more sources and improve the article. Thank You. Cfaso2000 (talk) 12:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: References appear to be from non-quality sites. Despite the award, the subject does not meet WP:ANYBIO as the awards are not well known.Mysecretgarden (talk) 18:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

:Keep. Subject has very wide coverage in independent media. 102.164.36.86 (talk) 21:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

::I still don’t understand why you have been jumping from one AFD to another voting keep. Saw how you accuse @Vanderwaalforces and @Reading Beans over assessment of source in the AFD. Then I had to make a check on you and see that your IP has been mentioned here Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TheChineseGroundnut/Archive#Suspected sockpuppets 3 by @DoubleGrazing two months ago. I then just don’t know what to say to you. Gabriel (……?) 00:39, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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