Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Perry Rubenstein Gallery

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The result was delete. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:09, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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An art gallery with no notability enough to warrant an article. Also, it has temporal covergage by the Los Angeles Times, but it is not enough (as i sad before) to warrant inclusion. I've additionaly found several additional sources fron both LA Times and others: [http://galleristny.com/2012/05/perry-rubenstein-to-inaugurate-los-angeles-gallery-with-helmut-newton-neil-young/], [http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/09/entertainment/la-et-helmut-newton-at-rubenstein-20120509], [http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/04/entertainment/la-et-cm-shepard-fairey-neil-young-perry-rubenstein-20120604], but i'm not convinced. Regards. — ΛΧΣ21™ 06:56, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

:Delete. I'm not convinced either that the short reports about the opening assert notability per WP:ORG of something that still has to establish itself in society as being something special or important enoough for an encyclopediac entry. I had spent some time cleaning the spam and trivia out of the article, and actually hesitated over PRODing it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:50, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

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Delete. This is pure WP:ADVERT. Also: WP:NOTADIRECTORY. The article has no place here. We are not a free web hosting service for non-notable businesses and their promoters. Qworty (talk) 20:43, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Delete The new deluge of improperly formatted references seem to be primarily for exhibitions at Perry Rubenstein Gallery NYC. Wikipedia:Notability_(companies_and_corporations)#No_inherited_notability heather walls (talk) 03:10, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

::- and notability is not inherited from the artists they have exhibited. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk)

Keep This is a notable gallery similar to Gagosian Gallery. There has been significant coverage of the gallery in reliable, independent sources. References to [http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/13/arts/design/13kino.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1348084917-Hc+wl80DsSsNnIfNy6zycw New York Times], [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2011/08/perry-rubenstein-to-open-new-gallery-in-la.html LA Times], and [http://www.laweekly.com/2012-08-30/art-books/regen-projects-perry-rubenstein/ LA Weekly]. Per WP:NOTADIRECTORY "historically significant program lists" are okay for inclusion. ak3914a (talk) 20:10, 19 September 2012 (UTC) - Note: — ak3914a (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

:*Although you may indeed say it received coverage from reliable sources, such coverage has been purely incidental and does not represent notability at all. Why the Gallery is notable? Which is in it? What has happened with it? Which is the importance it holds inside the medium on which it is placed? It has any of those parameters? My guess it's no. — ΛΧΣ21™ 02:28, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

:*Yes, incidental. Nice try with all the references (getting more promotional by the minute), but again notability is not inherited from exhibition press releases and artist reviews. Likewise the misinterpretation of WP:NOTADIRECTORY. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Keep - There seems to be a lot of news coverage for artist's debut, first US showing, "It was first shown at," "made his New York City debut at" etc. at the Perry Rubenstein Gallery. Maybe I'm dazzled by the workings of a popular gallery, but I think there is something important about that information and the Perry Rubenstein Gallery's roll in such art history. Wikipedia seems a good place to convey such information. If you count that information, I think the topic meets WP:GNG. (I think if the information now in the article were written in a prose format rather than a trivia bulleted format in the article, you'd probably get more Wikipedian's agreeing to keep the article.) As for writings about the Perry Rubenstein Gallery topic, there really isn't much: [http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/13/arts/design/13kino.html?_r=2pagewanted=1&oref=slogin& New York Times May 13, 2007], [http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/07/shepard-fairey-paints-neil-youngs-new-songs/ ArtsBeat May 7, 2012], [http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/25/entertainment/la-et-cm-regen-projects-new-home-hollywood-20120620 Los Angeles Times June 26, 2012]. Early references to the topic include [http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-06-27/features/0406270390_1_sculptors-and-painters-clothing-architecture-and-industrial-design Chicago Tribune June 27, 2004], [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E03E3D9133DF93AA15753C1A9629C8B63 New York Times October 29, 2004], [http://www.mutualart.com/OpenArticle/ROBIN-RHODE/DCB50C89156B82B2 Artforum December 1, 2004]. If you don't count the debut's, etc. at the gallery, then the topic doesn't meet WP:GNG. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 00:06, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

::Still doesn't take into account the fact that notability is not inherited from the people who have exhibited there. I can think of at least a dozen prominent galleries in Berlin, for example, who have been in existence for decades, are world scale art dealers of Old Masters and very famous contemporary artists, but the shop hasn't got a Wikipedia page. To meet GNG this gallery needs some dedicated articles in the established press that demonstrate that it has contributed significantly to developments in the art world. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:22, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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