Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip Schneider

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Philip Schneider died 12 years ago and before he died he claimed to have killed two aliens. This UFO-Alien-Conspiracy cruft fails WP:BIO and WP:V. BBiiis08 (talk) 02:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• Delete: Found sources that proved his existence. Found sources that talked about him. Even found sources that called him an expert. Could not find a single source that could in any way be called "reputable". --Kickstart70TC 04:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
• Keep, but perform massive cleanup. With the amount of sources that exist, I can't see why this should be deleted. Of course we all have our own ideas about aliens and UFO conspiracies, but that doesn't make sources from people who believe in it any less reputable. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
• Weak Keep. I agree that it needs a massive clean-up. But I have reservations to whether this person passes WP:BIO as BBiiis08 has mentioned. Dengero (talk) 13:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Paranormal-related deletion discussions. __meco (talk) 09:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Conspiracy theories-related deletion discussions. __meco (talk) 09:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
• keep there's gotta be a reason to keep an article about someone who claims to have done top secret underground government work... isn't there?--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:17, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

:Making outlandish claims is not a criteria for keeping an article. As of now it just a bunch of conspiracy-cruft that fails WP:V. BBiiis08 (talk) 18:04, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

::I didn't say I believe the story... but the claim? I think there's something there worth listing.--Paul McDonald (talk) 22:40, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

::: On what basis of WP:V, do you want to see this kept? BBiiis08 (talk) 18:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

• Comment- There are number of ghits from alien-related websites, but not a single news result on reaction to his claims. I am just wondering, was this whole a one sided affair? Was he ever criticized or responded by the government for his alleged role? ^LeaveSleaves _talk 18:44, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

:As far as I can see, there is no reliable sources on this. BBiiis08 (talk) 22:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 19:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
• Delete very close to a speedy delete as nonsense, no evidence that any significant number of people took it seriously, even among t he sort of people who are likely to take such claims at facevalue. DGG (talk) 08:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and DGG. GlassCobra 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

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