Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pi Story

=[[Pi Story]]=

:{{la|Pi Story}} ([{{fullurl:Pi Story|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pi Story}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

Short-lived, defunct MMORPG. The article is unclear as to whether it ever even made it out of beta. All references seem to be primary sources (official site, publishers' site, developers' site); there doesn't seem to be much in the way of substantive third-party sources about it. — Gwalla | Talk 22:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions. —— Gwalla | Talk 22:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak keep per sourcing found at [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Pi+story%22+-seattle&um=1&ned=us&hl=en&scoring=a Google News]. Seems to meet GNG, even if it wasn't launched... but not by much. Jclemens (talk) 01:39, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. Ost (talk) 18:51, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Keep It's been covered in independent game sources like WarCry [http://www.warcry.com/news/view/76430-Pi-Story-Sets-Closed-Beta-Dates] and IGN [http://pc.ign.com/articles/924/924881p1.html]. Short-lived and defunct isn't a sign of non-notability, WP:NTEMP, notability is not temporary. Yngvarr (t) (c) 12:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Delete. You can't press release your way to notability, and the Google News hits are all press releases. Yngvarr's links above have no byline, identical text, and one is even marked press release at the bottom. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 00:23, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete Press releases weren't even picked up by gaming sites, as far as I can tell. No independant verification. Rotovia (talk) 00:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep a web search turns up a large number of weak sources ([http://feature.mmosite.com/content/2007-07-20/20070720022123241,1.shtml] for example). I think there is enough to have a (short) sourced article. Hobit (talk) 12:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

::Once again that's just a press release entry, even the embedded video is of the closed beta. --WebHamster 12:11, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

  • Delete Unremarkable, non-noteworthy and defunct. --WebHamster 12:11, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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