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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pokemon Ash Gray

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. LFaraone 02:42, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

=[[Pokemon Ash Gray]]=

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:({{Find video game sources|Pokemon Ash Gray}})

No indication of notability, no significant third-party coverage, not a part of the official franchise. Huon (talk) 18:37, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Oppose A quick Google search proves that there is some other coverage if you look carefully. Also whether it is part of the official franchise is irrelevant. If that were the case nobody could have articles on any hack games.Pug6666 18:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. ({{find video game sources short|Pokemon Ash Gray|linksearch=}}) czar · · 20:19, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

::Can you mention what the coverage is because the nominator did not say that there was no coverage but that there was not significant third coverage witch is a different story entirely? We need to know if the coverage will make the article meet the guideline of WP:N, and having a list of sources would make that easier to do. I do agree that not being part of the official franchise is not a good reason for deletion though.--174.95.111.89 (talk) 01:57, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

::[https://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22Pokémon+Ash+Gray%22 No, there isn't]. Please provide links to the sources you claim to exist. Satellizer el Bridget ツ 05:56, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

:*A note for source hunters: This entry is an unofficial fan game. There are many hits out there in Google searches that will have nothing to do with this particular topic, due to the title's ties to words that do mean something in other aspects of the Pokémon series:

:#Ash is the main character of Pokémon games.

:#Pokémon Gray was a rumored/trademarked name for an official Nintendo game that (so far) never surfaced.

:*Once you separate out any of those "false hits", you'll see there's no coverage from sources that WikiProject Video Games considers reliable. Sergecross73 msg me 14:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Comment Hack games are less likely to be covered by media. Also there is not much dispute on it's existence.Pug6666 22:19, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

  • On Wikipedia, notability is largely decided on coverage though. So saying things like that is more of a reason why it should be deleted. (There's a reason why there are very few articles about unofficial fan games/hacks. It's because of that lack of third party sources.) Also, on Wikipedia, Existence does not prove notability. Sergecross73 msg me 01:42, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete non-notable fan game. Satellizer el Bridget ツ 05:56, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete No coverage in RS and is an unofficial hacked game. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 00:33, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete - non-notable game with none of the requisite substantial coverage in reliable sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:19, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete: It doesn't even say why it's notable.—Ryulong (琉竜) 09:26, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete: per above. Mr T(Talk?) [{{fullurl:User_talk:Mrt3366|action=edit§ion=new&preload=User_talk:Mrt3366/new_section}} (New thread?)] 09:36, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.