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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Presbyterian Theological Centre

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was nomination withdrawn. LibStar (talk) 02:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

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fails WP:ORG. no signficant indepth coverage. gnews reveals passing mentions in press [http://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&hl=en&gl=au&as_q=&as_epq=Presbyterian+Theological+Centre&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_scoring=r&btnG=Search&as_qdr=a&as_mindate=27%2F09%2F11&as_maxdate=27%2F10%2F11&as_drrb=a&as_nsrc=&as_nloc=&as_author=&as_occt=any&tbs=ar%3A1]. doesn't even get anything in a major Australian news site [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=au&q=%22Presbyterian+Theological+Centre%22+site%3A.news.com.au&oq=%22Presbyterian+Theological+Centre%22+site%3A.news.com.au&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1359l7484l0l7656l30l30l0l27l0l0l219l562l0.2.1l3l0]. all it is is a small theological that gives out degrees in divinity, not a wide range of degrees like a major academic institution. LibStar (talk) 06:56, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Speedy keep. I don't recall ever seeing an accredited university nominated before. Certainly, WP:UNIGUIDE, although an essay, says that all colleges are notable. (Indeed, high schools are usually regarded as being notable.) But a glance at Google Books shows that this is a very poor nomination. StAnselm (talk) 08:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

: gbooks contains almost all passing mentions like person X attended the centre. Not significant in-depth coverage. LibStar (talk) 09:46, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Speedy keep. This is in accredited institution in a country where accreditation is not given lightly; it offers recognised bachelor's and master's degrees. Lots of Google Books references, as StAnselm points out. -- 202.124.73.114 (talk) 08:19, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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  • Keep. Degree-awarding body. Clearly notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:32, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

:: there are many small private or religious colleges worldwide that award degrees, that in itself does not guarantee notability. LibStar (talk) 09:11, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

:::On the contrary, it has generally been held that it does. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:36, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Please give examples. LibStar (talk) 12:30, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

:Sorry, but I really can't be bothered to go back through old AfDs to find examples of something that should be obvious. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:45, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Speedy keep: Universities seem notable to me. I assume if you poked around Trove, sources would show it meets GNG. --LauraHale (talk) 09:22, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

:: it's not a university. Trove shows mainly passing mentions and primary sources. LibStar (talk) 09:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 08:33, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 08:33, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. 202.124.73.114 (talk) 08:39, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Speedy Keep as a significant religious institution. Xxanthippe (talk) 10:24, 28 October 2011 (UTC).

: not significant, fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 11:34, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

::: not a university, not even listed on the official Australian government website for universities. http://www.studyinaustralia.gov.au/en/Courses/Universities LibStar (talk) 11:34, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

::::Like I posted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ian Smith (minister), it is clearly a university. I'll quote myself here for the benefit of those not watching the other page. "It's a seminary. It grants post-high-school degrees. That makes it a university. I mean, it even grants a [http://www.ptcsydney.org/postgraduate/ doctorate], for crying out loud!" --Philosopher Let us reason together. 11:46, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

::::The appropriate official Australian government website link would be [http://www.myfuture.gov.au/The%20Facts/Education%20and%20Training/Education%20and%20Training%20Providers/Details.aspx?ProviderId=11183 here]. -- 202.124.74.103 (talk) 11:58, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Which says it's a theological college in the broad category of "university/higher education" but not precisely a university. 12:30, 28 October 2011 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by LibStar (talk • contribs)

::::It offers government-accredited higher degrees, including doctorates. That's university-level. It is audited by the Australian Universities Quality Agency (AUQA). -- 202.124.72.198 (talk) 13:05, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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  • Keep Can't see why this was nominated. North8000 (talk) 14:10, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:GNG, I really dont see why this was nominated there are a lot of Presbyterians out there whom might find this article usefull. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 18:11, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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