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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priya Basil

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 12:08, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

=[[Priya Basil]]=

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This author does not meet notability thresholds per WP:N, WP:PEOPLE, or WP:AUTHOR. While she has one award win, and several award short listings, it appears that only the long listing is for an award that itself it notable. The awards involved are:

  • Second place for the World Book Day "Book to Talk About 2008" competition. This award is only mentioned on three Wikipedia pages[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aen.wikipedia.org+%22book+to+talk+about%22+%22world+book+day%22] and only seems to be reported in the media as part of book publisher's announcements.[http://news.google.com/archivesearch?um=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22book+to+talk+about%22+%22world+book+day%22]
  • Short-listed for a Commonwealth Writers' Prize. It appears the Commonwealth Writer’s Prize is not notable though is gaining momentum. It’s mentioned in seven Wikipedia articles.[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aen.wikipedia.org+%22Commonwealth+Writer%E2%80%99s+Prize%22]
  • Long-listed for the Dylan Thomas Award. The Dylan Thomas Award is not notable though is mentioned as part of 23 Wikipedia articles.[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aen.wikipedia.org+%22Dylan+Thomas+Award%22] There is moderate media coverage though it all seems to be from book publisher announcements.[http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Dylan+Thomas+Award%22]
  • Long-listed for the International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award. While the award’s Wikipedia article does not document its notability it has enough coverage that it likely is notable. There are 153 mentions on Wikipedia[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aen.wikipedia.org+%22International+IMPAC+Dublin+Literary+Award%22] and 810 media mentions[http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22International+IMPAC+Dublin+Literary+Award%22].

To sum it up, there is one long listing for a likely notable award and then a second place, short listing, and a long listing for non-notable awards. This does not seem to mean notability per Wikipedia:AUTHOR#Any biography which includes “The person has received a notable award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times.” --Marc Kupper|talk 23:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

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  • Keep - She has garnered coverage such as this [http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?234153 review], the Commonwealth shortlisting was [http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200802130951.htm noticed], her novel was reviewed by the [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/paperbacks/3671572/Paperback-choice.html Telegraph], abit more coverage [http://www.dnaindia.com/world/column_chapati-chutney-and-literature_1154362 here], and in the [http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2007/mar/25/fiction.features7 Guardian]. -- Whpq (talk) 15:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

: Other than the Guardian article none of those were the "significant coverage" of the subject from sources "independent of the subject" that WP:N asks for. I have added the Guardian article as one of the references for the Priya Basil article. --Marc Kupper|talk 07:34, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Keep - references are niot inline but they seem sufficient to justify notability. Artw (talk) 17:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

: I added most of the references you are seeing as they contain quotes from Priya Basil herself. If the consensus is keep then the references can be used as source material to fill out the article a bit more. However, other than the Guardian article the references are not the "significant coverage" of the subject from sources "independent of the subject" that WP:N asks for. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment - [http://www.depers.nl/cultuur/123498/Mijn-achtergrond-kan-inspirerend-zijn.html This] is in dutch but is a rather substantial article. -- Whpq (talk) 20:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

: Nearly all of it is quotes from Priya Basil herself and thus is not coverage of Priya Basil. The lead before her quotes is her standard author blurb. I've added it to the list of references. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:35, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:35, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Delete not yet notable. possibly when reviews of her next book come out, then the article could be rewritten. worldCat shows only 113 holdings of her first book, which is not enough for a single novel. the actual amount of content on it in the Guardian is small, just inclusion in a group review of first novels. DGG ( talk ) 02:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep - I researched and found some more independent references: [http://www.indiatoday.com/itoday/20070326/books.html], [http://textualities.net/hannah-adcock/new-voices/], [http://www.lumiere.net.nz/reader/item/903] and [http://www.asiansinmedia.org/news/article.php/publishing/1596]. She participated in The Hague in a project about translating, called "The Chronicles" (2007), which, I think, is another possible source for the article: [http://www.crossingborder.nl/media.php?ID=22&writerID=12&lang=nl] Atonement100 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atonement100 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

: Thank you Atonement100. [8], [9], and [10] are book reviews with no coverage of Priya Basil, [11] and [12] are a book review and photo caption that both include one sentence of coverage which WP:N classes as "plainly trivial." Please see WP:N. As she was participating in the Hague translation project it's expected there will be coverage of her by the project itself. That would not be independent coverage. --Marc Kupper|talk 10:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

: Thank you, Marc. May I asked you why book-reviews are not independent? And [8] is a rather long review in the magazine India Today, which has just one topic: "Ishq and Mushq" and the author Priya Basil; the same can be said for [10], a review of the book in The Lumiere Reader. Maybe have a second look. Atonement 100 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atonement100 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.