Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/R. C. Unnithan

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The "delete" opinions merely assert non-notability, but fail to discuss why the sources being offered by the "keep" side are insufficient. Sandstein 11:28, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

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FFailed to pass WP:NPOL WP:GNG Padavalam Kuttan Pilla  Talk  18:35, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

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  • Keep Passes GNG, discussed in [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jkHtAAAAMAAJ The history of trade union movement in Kerala (pp.551,554)], from significant Kerala family, brother of Adoor Gopalakrishnan ([https://adoorgopalakrishnan.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/With-elder-brother-middle-Prof.-R.C.Unnithan-Younger-brother-Ayyappan.jpg photo here]), obituary in [https://www.mathrubhumi.com/pathanamthitta/news/--1.495812 Mathrubhumi]|. AfD is not clean-up.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldsztajn (talkcontribs)

:::{{comment}} If you have more reliable sources that prove his notability, you can submit here. I admit Adoor Gopalakrishnan is a notable person.but that doesn't transfer here-- Padavalam Kuttan Pilla  Talk  16:23, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

::::{{u|Padavalamkuttanpilla}} - can you please describe what WP:BEFORE, in particular parts B and D, you did before nominating?--Goldsztajn (talk) 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

:::::{{u|Padavalamkuttanpilla}} - your userpage indicates you are a native speaker of Malayalam - I can only access [https://www.mathrubhumi.com/pathanamthitta/news/--1.495812 RC Unnithan's obitary] via a poor Google translate, but what is there indicates notable activities throughout his life, which could be verified (although mostly from Malayali sources). Did you explore this? Why do you see nothing notable there? --Goldsztajn (talk) 11:40, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per WP:POLOUTCOMES. My understanding of the consensus is that, absent significant coverage, mayors of even medium-sized cities like this subject are not automatically notable. Bearian (talk) 17:28, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable politician. Fails WP:NPOL & WP:GNG. LefcentrerightTalk (plz ping) 20:04, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment {{u|Bearian}} I don't understand your comment: {{tq|"even medium-sized cities like this subject"}}. The subject was an advocate (lawyer), AITUC/CITU trade unionist, writer and CPI(M) candidate, solely applying NPOL is not appropriate here. He was deemed worthy enough of attention to be imprisoned during the Emergency. His prison diary is a notable text held in multiple libraries. The difficulty is that the vast majority of text concerning him is in Malayali, but that is not a limit to his notability.--Goldsztajn (talk) 09:12, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
  • :{{u|Goldsztajn}}, None of those common posts merit an article. FYI, According to Amnesty International, 140,000 people had been arrested during the twenty months of emergency. I am sure you don't mean that all these are fit to get an article. ⋙–DBigXray 12:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

:::{{u|DBigXray}} - there's a vast difference between being arrested and spending almost two years in gaol. --Goldsztajn (talk) 12:43, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

::::{{u|Goldsztajn}}, As you can see I have not yet made up my mind on this AfD and still sitting on the fence. I wanted to point the obvious thing that came to my mind after reading your comment. Being a popular activist or a notable author does merit an article but someone needs to establish this that he is a cut above the rest. ⋙–DBigXray 12:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep, seems to satisfy WP:GNG per sources provided by {{u|Goldsztajn}}. I must also add, nowhere does it state or has been argued that he was a mayor of anywhere, so I do not understand what {{u|Bearian}} is alluding to. From what I gather he seems to be primarily a trade unionist. Tayi Arajakate Talk 17:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG.S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 16:26, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

::Repeating the (insufficient) text of the nomination is inadequate; especially given that this AfD is contested. This is not a vote.--Goldsztajn (talk) 21:23, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

:::Yes. Its not a vote. So I voted delete and said why I have voted.S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 03:12, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep - I have mixed him up with a similarly-named person. This subject meets my standards for notable lawyers, as doing things other than just defending clients or suing persons. Bearian (talk) 14:48, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

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