Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Racing guantanamo

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Australian football (soccer) club. Does not and has never played in the A-League, but in a regional league organized by the Broome Soccer Association. No coverage to be found, [http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&num=50&q=%22Racing%20guantanamo%22 14 ghits] in total. Fails WP:NOTE. Amalthea^Talk 13:15, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

• Racing Guantanamo are a regional team but the league is well known throughout the Kimberley area of Western Australia. They have appeared on local TV news, as well as print and radio media. There are other regional based teams with articles on Wikipedia, such as ECU Joondalup Soccer Club and Perth Soccer Club, both of which have never played in the A-League. Therefore I would suggest that this page is allowed to stand. Broome26 (talk) 13:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
  copied from User talk:Amalthea#Articles for deletion/Racing guantanamo. --Amalthea^Talk 13:52, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
• What the notability policy asks for is significant coverage in multiple, reliable sources, i.e. coverage that goes beyond mere mentions or game reports. Is there anything of that kind? It needs not to be available online?
  Furthermore, and I'm no expert in Australian football, the Broomedesliga (which is a very nice name by the way) seems to be several levels below the A-League, if I understand Football West correctly.
  I'm going to invite people from the WikiProject Football over, let's see what they say. --Amalthea^Talk 14:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Amalthea^Talk 14:15, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
• Thanks for that - whilst the league is small, it is still the biggest in the Kimberley area - because we are so far away from Perth - which is where the [Football West Premier League] is based, we have to have a league here. I assure you we are mentioned in the local newspapers, as well as local radio and TV news. Also, all players are registered with [Football West]. Broome26 (talk) 14:21, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
• Comment - I enjoyed reading the article and agree that Broomedesliga is an interesting name, but at present it fails the notability guidelines as there is no indication the team has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. The current links in the article are primary, being the Broome Soccer Association and the self-published website for the team. These are sources affiliated with the subject rather than independent ones. You mention possible coverage in regional newspapers - this may or may not count as significant independent coverage depending on the newspaper and the depth of coverage for the team. As material needs referencing, if you have these references you might like to include them in the article. See here for what constitutes a reliable source. Euryalus (talk) 03:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• I'm glad to hear you enjoyed reading the article. Like I said it is an amateur league affiliated with Football West, the governing body of Football in Western Australia. I have a number of articles from the Broome Advertiser which I can use to substantiate the notability of the club. They are scanned from the newspaper. Should I upload to the website? Or somewhere else? Broome26 (talk) 05:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 17:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —Grahame (talk) 02:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Non-notable regional amateur club. Murtoa (talk) 03:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Yes it's regional. Western Australia is a big place and we are all the way at the top end. Therefore the club is one of the biggest in the Kimberley Region.Broome26 (talk) 05:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Athletes. This is not a professional league. WWGB (talk) 04:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Neither is the Western Australia State League Amateur Premier Division. There are clubs who have articles on Wikipedia from there (eg. Hamersley Rovers) Broome26 (talk) 05:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. The club is not notable, nor professional. It is no where near the top league(s) of its country. Recreate when it's promoted to A-League. talk) 05:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• There are clubs from WA who are nowhere near the state league and have pages on here, Hamersley Rovers, Dianella White Eagles Broome26
• I too have noticed a number of existing articles for football clubs in amateur leagues around Australia. However, the fact those articles haven't yet faced similar deletion nominations is not a valid argument for retaining this article. Refer WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Murtoa (talk) 06:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Delete: Non-notable. Sorry to all those players in who wanted the glory of a Wikipedia article about themselves. However, the group has not attained notability beyond the town, in a remote part of the country.--Lester 12:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Quentin X (talk) 14:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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