Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ravi Bissambhar

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Terribly referenced article. Notability is asserted (with respect to minor awards won and "hit" songs) but no references are provided establishing these "facts". Bueller 007 (talk) 22:10, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

• Strong keep - I agree that the article is bad, but Ravi B is definitely notable. Three scholarly works that discuss his work (in a broad context)
• [http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03007766.2012.737593#preview Jep Sting Radica with Rum and Roti: Trinidadian Social Dynamics in Chutney Music] - Darrell Gerohn Baksh, Popular Music and Society, 37(2): 2014
• [http://www.uwispace.sta.uwi.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/2139/15570/A.%20Mohammed-%20Love%20and%20Anxiety.pdf?sequence=1 Love and Anxiety: Gender Negotiations in Chutney-Soca Lyrics in Trinidad] - Aisha Mohammed, Caribbean Review of Gender Studies 1: 2007
• [http://scholarlyrepository.miami.edu/anthurium/vol7/iss1/11/ Poetics of Space in the Works of Mahadai Das and Adesh Samaroo] - Joy Mahabir, Anthurium 7(1); 2010

:While I know that simple GHits don't indicate notability, and that there are probably quite a few duplicate hits, but even taking that into account, the sheer volume of hits the major national newspapers suggest that he's notable (and note that these are only examples where his full name is used, not his stage name Ravi B)

:* Trinidad and Tobago Express: 163 hits[https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=site%3aguardian.co.tt%20ravi%20bissambhar]

:* Trinidad and Tobago Newsday187 hits[site:newsday.co.tt Ravi Bissambhar]

:* Trinidad Guardian: 2370 hits[https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=site%3aguardian.co.tt%20ravi%20bissambhar] (Given the other two newspapers, this number is probably too high).

:This isn't a proper analysis, I realise, but I think it's illustrative that Ravi B is notable as a performer and as an important contributor to the chutney-soca genre. Guettarda (talk) 22:56, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

::Comment. I will withdraw the nomination if you are willing to put in the work to improve the article. Otherwise, I think it should go through the full process. Bueller 007 (talk) 23:23, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

• Speedy keep - clearly not a legitimate nomination for deletion, which can be closed regardless of the nominator's ultimatums to other editors. St★lwart¹¹¹ 00:58, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

:*It's not an ultimatum. You might want to look that word up, so you know what it means. Notability should be asserted in the article itself and I invited him to add it. The comment was intended to show that this article could clearly benefit from going through the AfD process; it should be apparent that it already has. Anyway, take your snarky comments and nasty attitude elsewhere. Bueller 007 (talk) 02:19, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

::*That suggestion is contrary to WP:NOTCLEANUP, WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM and WP:BEFORE. "I will withdraw the nomination if you are willing to put in the work to improve the article" suggests you won't if he isn't which is absolutely an ultimatum. He is not required to do that work in order for this discussion to be closed and it can be closed (without you withdrawing it) on the basis that you haven't actually provided a valid rationale for deletion. St★lwart¹¹¹ 02:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

:::*It's not an ultimatum, it's more of a challenge. I've been aware of the article for a long time, knowing it needed serious work. I'll accept the challenge to clean it up, as best I can. It's all good. Guettarda (talk) 03:04, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

::::*Well, I'm glad you see it that way, but its still not an appropriate deletion nomination. St★lwart¹¹¹ 03:19, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Caribbean-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:05, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Trinidad and Tobago-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:05, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

• Keep. Clearly notable via coverage described above. --Michig (talk) 14:31, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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