Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Heron (TechTV)

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Reading from the article text, Robert seems to be just another blogger who writes about popular computer software trends. Does not pass any notability guidelines. If trivia content (such as in sections "History" and "Trivia") would be removed, the article would just sum up to 2 paragraphs about this guy is just one of hundreds of publicists employed for Ziff Davis - I see no sense in creating article for every one of them. Article lacks any references (why should I trust this article for facts like "He never graduated from college"?), not to mention any serious references, such as citation in some independent reliable 3rd party publication. GreyCat (talk) 20:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

::NOTE: This entry has not been properly added to the Wikipedia: Artcles For Deletion page, therefore other editors have not seen it and have not been able to participate in this debate to determine it's outcome. If you're going to make such a stir about deletion, please learn the procedure. Rugz (talk) 01:10, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

:::What do you mean? I'm looking at it right now, and you and I are participating in the debate, as are other editors. Drmies (talk) 01:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

• Delete: Doesn't show notability per WP:BIO. Schuym1 (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

• Keep: I see nothing in the article which mentions he is just another "blogger" as you have asserted. Furthermore I see nothing in the article to support your assertion that he is either employed by Ziff Davis, or that is a "publicist" for Ziff Davis, or that he is merely one of a hundred employees. You stated "I see no sense in creating an article for every one of them." Who is "them?" I think it's clear you hold some personal bias against something broader than Robert Heron and are not being objective. Instead of deleting we should find references and clean up the article so that it is more encyclopedic. Tech TV was a worldwide television network reaching millions of viewers. Simply because it no longer exists does not mean it is any less relevant. Rugz (talk) 00:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
• Why don't you stop complaining and find sources yourself if you care about this article so much? Schuym1 (talk) 00:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
• I'm not the author of the article, nor have I contributed to it. That is not my responsibility in a deletion debate. I'm only pointing out here that the nomination was clearly biased. Rugz (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 04:02, 29 December 2008 (UTC).
• I'm just saying that it's really stupid that someone has a keep vote for an article that has no notability per WP:BIO and won't improve it. If no one adds sources, it will get deleted for sure. Schuym1 (talk) 04:34, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

:*Article includes an infobox that mentions that Robert is employed by Ziff Davis. According to Ziff Davis article, they have approximately 500 employees. While Tech TV may be indeed notable, I don't see anything notable about one of its hosts personally. I've searched the web / news / books / journals briefly to find out if I'm right or wrong and I've found no good sources to assert notability of biography. --GreyCat (talk) 01:14, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

• Here are the rest of the TechTV hosts: List_of_TechTV_Personalities You should nominate them all for deletion as well based on your anti Ziff Davis theory. Have at it. They should all be treated equally. Rugz (talk) 04:09, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
• You really aren't helping anything. Schuym1 (talk) 04:29, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
• Here we're discussing this particular person. However, I've made a quick peek at the list, thanks. In fact, few of other hosts I've seen are pretty well notable and referenced — for example Yoshi DeHerrera includes 10 references, includes a link to external database (IMDb) that aids asserting its notability and he is a notable published author, when is alone a criteria of notability. Kevin Rose includes 15 references, he appears as on the cover of major BusinessWeek magazine, etc. I'll try to nominate several others, less notable and referenced. --GreyCat (talk) 07:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 17:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

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:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 00:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

• Delete--the accusations of bias are pretty baseless, as far as I can see. This is an article about a person who has appeared a couple of times on a TV show (so the article says) and can mess around with Quake 3 purty good. None of it is referenced, and none of it really seems relevant, let alone notable. I have to agree with Schuym--if this character is so notable, why can't the keep-voter find those references and add them to the article? Drmies (talk) 01:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
• Delete why did this even need relisting, other than the fact that was not a cookie-cutter super-easy unanimous AFD? No sources were ever found... it's a pretty clear delete. --Rividian (talk) 03:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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