Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roxanne Ellis and Michelle Abdill

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There is nothing to indicate why these murders are notable. Sad - yes ; notable? Not so sure. They seem to be here as a record for LBGT issues and crimes. Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!} ^(Whisper...) 10:29, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

: Keep (no prejudice against a rename to the event, however):

:* Creation of a community center named for the victims: [http://books.google.com/books?id=Zao3wTyYE6MC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=Abdill-Ellis+Lambda+Community+Center&source=bl&ots=7miOSV90w0&sig=1prBwq-wwBjpUiprfsXjS-CQBVA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PvBZUPe_GYn-8ASMgoGQBA&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Abdill-Ellis%20Lambda%20Community%20Center&f=false]

:* Crime motivated attempts at federal legislation: [http://books.google.com/books?id=1WwUNltj0BQC&pg=PA6040&lpg=PA6040&dq=%22Roxanne+Ellis%22+murder&source=bl&ots=UOm0O9F2hV&sig=HWvlau611JQL9FD7rtFgNRmGwc8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yO9ZUJCaK4no9ASTtYCADw&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22Roxanne%20Ellis%22%20murder&f=false]

:* Decades later, subject of a television segment just last month: [http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120830/NEWS/208300331]

:* Breadth and longevity of additional coverage: [http://books.google.com/books?id=cWjcuhrs8ZIC&q=%22Roxanne+Ellis%22+murder&dq=%22Roxanne+Ellis%22+murder&source=bl&ots=kNcL4wrq31&sig=uTWPOEJ2e8nS4SFFGf0b-sVFnlk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8O9ZUITCIoai9QT1ooDoBQ&ved=0CEUQ6AEwCDgK], [http://books.google.com/books?id=l9UiAQAAMAAJ&q=%22Roxanne+Ellis%22+murder&dq=%22Roxanne+Ellis%22+murder&source=bl&ots=svyAtiYthy&sig=ihfid5VRt5HWQrzMU25yTcyvxVI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8O9ZUITCIoai9QT1ooDoBQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwBzgK], [http://books.google.com/books?id=V2UEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT15&lpg=PT15&dq=%22Roxanne+Ellis%22+murder&source=bl&ots=ctCh9Eifw_&sig=201vaBjp_BBwxqtv-lSEg3acqBA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yO9ZUJCaK4no9ASTtYCADw&ved=0CEIQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=%22Roxanne%20Ellis%22%20murder&f=false].

: These sources demonstrate persistence and lasting effect. Did you follow WP:BEFORE? --j⚛e decker^talk 16:36, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

• Keep per Joe Decker and perhaps rename to “Murder of Roxanne Ellis and Michelle Abdill”.--В и к и T 19:49, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

• Keep. Name change is a good idea. The duo is not notable, but their murder is. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 19:56, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Keep Agree with name change; wide enough coverage to pass WP:CRIME. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:26, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Keep per above. Insomesia (talk) 00:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
• Keep per Joe Decker. Rivertorch (talk) 18:01, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

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