Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royce Cronin
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was __EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__Keep. Eluchil404 (talk) 22:44, 7 April 2025 (UTC)(non-admin closure)
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Completely unreferenced article about an actor. As always, actors are not automatically entitled to Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on third-party media coverage about them and their performances -- but this cites no references at all, and is written in a semi-advertorialized tone that's not complying with WP:NPOV.
As he's a British actor whose strongest claims to potentially passing NACTOR are television roles from 20 years ago, I'm willing to withdraw this if a British editor with better access to archived UK media coverage from the noughts can find enough GNG-worthy sourcing to salvage it, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have any referencing. Bearcat (talk) 18:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and United Kingdom. Bearcat (talk) 18:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Theatre, England, and New Zealand. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:11, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Fails GNG, NACTOR and SIGCOV. Also contains WP:SELFPROMO, as at least one, probably both, of the IP edits is/are by the subject himself. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 19:28, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete no SIGCOV. Alexeyevitch(talk) 07:24, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
:Delete found nothing in my search that'd contribute towards GNG. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:31, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete have yet to find independent RS referencing the subject in detail asides from brief mentions of his roles from what I have found so far.Villkomoses (talk) 17:15, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep He meets WP:NACTOR with significant roles in 24Seven, Family Affairs and more recently on stage in The Band Back Together, a stage play by Barney Norris which does not yet have a WP article, but has reviews from The Guardian, The Times and The Spectator, which I have added to this article, and is thus clearly notable. He has also had other stage roles, including in a well-reviewed production of Bouncers by John Godber (which also should have a WP article). RebeccaGreen (talk) 17:55, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - per WP:NACTOR - Had two regular roles on main channels in the UK. I have expanded the article slightly. Thank you for explaining RebeccaGreen - I was able to find sources for the works you talked about using the newspaper archive. Perhaps this just needs extra research, a lot of his career was in the 1990s and early 2000s and the link rot obviously means we lost sources for his early roles. I have sourced some early role info using archives.Rain the 1 21:20, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - I would request that this stays open longer since the original rationale and subsequent support for deletion is based on an unsourced version of this article [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Royce_Cronin&diff=1280827258&oldid=1280826232] - I have sourced more of the actor's early life and career beginnings since my previous comment. Also pinging {{ping|Alexeyevitch}}{{ping|DerbyCountyinNZ}}{{ping|Villkomoses}}{{ping|Traumnovelle}}{{ping|Bearcat}} - should I continue trying to expand it?Rain the 1 22:00, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per sources provided by RebeccaGreen and the improvement (WP:HEY) done by RainTheOne. The subject is clearly notable and meets NACTOR. There are also multiple newspaper sources discussing the actor that I can email. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 18:22, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:50, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:49, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY. The version nominated for deletion was completely unsourced, and I think the work done since to improve the article means Cronin meets WP:NACTOR. - JuneGloom07 Talk 04:25, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY. In particular, there are now three reviews of his work in the Band play. Bearian (talk) 17:57, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - I have added some more content since there has been additional support for the article to be kept. Additional theatre roles including coverage in The Guardian.Rain the 1 01:15, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Per WP:HEY and rationale of RebeccaGreen. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:14, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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