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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sagem Orga

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Courcelles 23:43, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

=[[Sagem Orga]]=

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Spam-like, but somewhere close to salvageable (hence the AFD rather than speedy). Possibly redirect to Sefran, its parent company, without prejudice an article in the future. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 19:52, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. — Red Baboon (talk) 21:58, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

  • Delete, and I would say speedy delete as unambiguous advertising. Since the current text needs replacement in its entirety --- Global security is one of the greatest challenges of our time, and one of the key aspects is protection of personal identities – in electronic transactions, personal data or the legally binding nature of electronically concluded business. Electronic documents like Smart Cards ensure that confidential information and biometric data are practically impossible to steal and misuse by preventing unauthorized access. That is why more and more government authorities and businesses are discovering the benefits of electronic documents.... With its e-Documents Division, Morpho is a pioneer and market leader in the field of Smart Cards and e-Documents..... Nine strategically located development centers produce a steady flow of innovations that change the world. Payment --- notability is not really an issue. Even if this were a notable product (and it doesn't sound like one) having an article under this title only misleads users and editors into believing that there is encyclopedic information here rather than puffery. It isn't clear from this advertising text whether it's about "Sagem Orga" or "Morpho", which seems to be the chief subject of the text. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 22:21, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment. The current version is copyvio from [http://www.morpho.com/e-documents here]. However a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sagem_Orga&oldid=372677202 cleaner 2010 version] exists. So it doesn't qualify for G12 and possibly not G11 either. • Gene93k (talk) 00:41, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete - I didn't see any notable mentions on Google and Yahoo aside from [http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/12/sagem-orgas-simfi-merges-wifi-with-sim-cards-at-long-last-turn/ this one]. SwisterTwister talk 19:59, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep - the company is a major manufacturer of smartcards (I got to this article because I found its name when I scraped away the magnetic stripe of my canceled credit card.) Its low presence in google is due to the nature of its business. --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2011 (UTC) PS. Instead of nominating articles for deletion, please EDIT them to conform. It is less work FOR EVERYBODY. Deletionism is killing Wikipedia.

::I am no deletionist. It's simply that this article is not, in my opinion, savable because Sagem Orga itself does not warrant an article. I've worked hard to save other articles before. I reject your attack on me personally. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 08:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

  • Delete no indication of notabilityCurb Chain (talk) 14:49, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.