Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salford University Engineers Union

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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 08:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

=[[Salford University Engineers Union]]=

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non notable student organization, refs, with a single exception, consist of links to the organization's own websites, and their facebook page WuhWuzDat 16:36, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Comment The organisation has become a large part of life at university for many Salford engineering students and so is very noteworthy. This page is new and the references are still being added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.97.26 (talk) 17:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Delete being "a large part of life at university for many Salford engineering students" actually does not make it "very noteworthy" as far as Wikipedia is concerned. Meeting the criteria as outlined at WP:ORG is what makes it noteworthy, which in this case it doesn't. What separates Salford University's Engineers Union from the other thousands (or more?) of student unions and organizations globally? Show me substantial, independent coverage as on a national scale and I may reconsider. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 18:02, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

::how does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_University_Evangelical_Union compare then? That is just the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.97.26 (talk) 18:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

:::That would be WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 20:26, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

::There are references to the Salford SU presidents facebook, aswell as the Salford SU website, Gradcracker, and iMeche. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djw42 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

:::Exactly my point. What I asked for in order to verify the group meets WP:ORG was "substantial, independent coverage as on a national scale" and you point me to the SU president's Facebook page. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 20:26, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

::::I was writing in response to "refs, with a single exception, consist of links to the organization's own websites, and their facebook page" which as im sure you can see, was incorrect. Although I didn't respond to this directly, neither did I respond to you directly. So please refrain from making assumptions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djw42 (talk • contribs) 20:32, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

:::::Incorrect? Please [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Salford_University_Engineers_Union&oldid=422715168 look at the page at the time it was nominated for deletion]. WuhWuzDat 07:45, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

:::::The page was still being written at that point by the looks of it. 188.221.97.26 (talk) 22:16, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 02:48, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:48, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Delete. No sources very high up the WP:V/WP:RS chain to support general notability. Arguments along the vein of WP:ATA are unhelpful. Perhaps it's worth a sentence or two at University of Salford Students' Union? tedder (talk) 03:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Keep Has received great recognition in the university paper and online, with one of its students winning an award. --188.221.97.26 (talk) 09:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

::Notability is NOT inherited, even if the student was notable, that does NOT make the organization notable. (comment above by IP address appears to have originated from Salford University student housing) WuhWuzDat 07:43, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

::PLEASE QUOTE YOUR SOURCE - "comment above by IP address appears to have originated from Salford University student housing)". My IP address is not from student housing, all of Salford Unis IP addresses point to Salford.ac.uk, you will find I am on O2 broadband. As you can see there is a lot of interest in this topic, and I am sure that that shows one reason to keep the article. 188.221.97.26 (talk) 08:52, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Delete and give it a paragraph at University of Salford#Student life. --MelanieN (talk) 01:42, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

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