Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarah Moormann Scharper

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Ignoring the apparent COI from the article's creator, there's scant evidence Scharper is notable. The Emmy would make her notable but [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=sC3&q=%22Sarah+Moormann+Scharper%22+Emmy&btnG=Search with] or [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=asN&q=%22Sarah+Scharper%22+Emmy&btnG=Search without] the middle name, I can't verify it from reliable sources. Can't verify any of the claims, the Bellarmine Players claim [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=zuN&q=%22Bellarmine+Players%22+Scharper&btnG=Search exists] on wiki and bizarrely in a craigslist ad. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 14:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. David Eppstein (talk) 17:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per not being able to verify Emmy (Emmy website search engine is blocked from linking here).--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)Keep per finding RS ref to Emmy win--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Pending further research. Had a bit of trouble searching for emmy too, and at first thought it was a hoax, but there's this - [http://www.airportchapels.org/ds/mayds.pdf] backing up notability claims. Note the one "n" spelling Moorman there. Looks like her husband was notable too, cf Orbis Books.John Z (talk) 18:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Definite keeper. The [http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F0081FFD3F5F0C7B8CDDAC0894DD484D81&scp=1&sq=sarah+scharper&st=nyt NYT obit for her husband] is not free, but if you search under "Sarah Scharper" at the NYT archive [http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=a&query=sarah+scharper&srchst=nyt&daterange=period&submit.x=26&submit.y=12] you get another confirmation of their emmy.John Z (talk) 18:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep per John Z's find of a ref to Emmy. --Crusio (talk) 19:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, since Emmy win has been verified by Jon Z's references. Nsk92 (talk) 23:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment. The dates are a little difficult to believe, unless she has a time machine. Married in 1049, born in 1920, died in 1922, graduated in 1949, and then received an award in 1979? It's easy to guess that the marriage year should actually be 1949, but I have no idea about the death, and in any case reliable sourcing would be a good idea. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:*You're a real detail man, eh? Isn't it OR to cavil at these dates like that? I thought 1922 could be a typo for 1992 [http://books.google.com/books?id=z-eoFAPj2T8C&pg=PP7&dq=Sally+Scharper&output=html&sig=ACfU3U0eKLO2W-h24A08QP_c4bIL0nlEEw This] confirms it. It appears the problem is that she was much better known as Sally Scharper. Many more ghits on "Sally Scharper" with quotes than "Sarah Scharper."John Z (talk) 01:39, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::*Oh, and keep for the Emmy. I just think a little cleanup and sourcing would be in order. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:22, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

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